liberty 22 sailboat

Review of Liberty 22

Basic specs..

The hull is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season. And outside the sailing season, just bottom cleaning and perhaps anti-fouling painting once a year - a few hours of work, that's all.

The boat is equipped with 4 berths.

Unknown keel type

The boat can sail close to the beach as the draft is just 0.31 - 0.41 meter (1.02 - 1.32 ft) dependent of the load. See immersion rate below.

Sailing characteristics

This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.

What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?

The capsize screening value for Liberty 22 is 2.26, indicating that this boat would not be accepted to participate in ocean races.

The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Liberty 22 is about 103 kg/cm, alternatively 580 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 103 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 580 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.

Sailing statistics

This section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points.

What is L/B (Length Beam Ratio)?

SA/D (Sail Area Displacement ratio) Indicates how fast the boat is in light wind: - Cruising Boats have ratios 10-15 - Cruiser-Racers have ratios 16-20 - Racers have ratios above 20 - High-Performance Racers have ratios above 24 Sail-area/displacement ratio (SA/D ratio): 25.42

Maintenance

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The Liberty 22 is a 1979 David Thomas design penned for Hunter Boats (the British company, not Hunter Marine of the US). Thomas drew inspiration from the traditional British Navy Montagu Whalers and the unstayed masts of Gary Hoyt’s Freedom line of yachts . 

Hunter Boats built 65 Liberty 22s in the 1980s. They also built another 19 Liberty 23s, which were the same hull as the 22 with more ballast and sail area. Both designs came out of the same mold as the later Minstrel 23 . Unlike the gaff-rigged sloop rig of the Minstrel, the Liberty 22 is a cat-ketch rig with 170 square feet of sail area between the two mainsails. Owners have also added ballooners and staysails to the rig.

With the forward location of the mast, there is a relatively large and open cabin given the overall length. Typically, there is a double or two single berths, quarter berth, galley, and head.

There is an active  Hunter Liberty Minstrel Owners Association  in the UK with most of the boats having found homes in their native waters.

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Liberty 22 is a 22 ′ 3 ″ / 6.8 m monohull sailboat designed by David Thomas and built by Hunter Boats Ltd. between 1982 and 1987.

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The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

The LIBERTY 23 (19 built) varied slightly with the same hull, more ballast, with slightly more sail area. When the free-standing aluminum masts for the LIBERTY (cat ketches) were no longer available, Hunter introduced a gaff rigged sloop version with the same hull called the MINSTREL which was built until 1993.

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The Liberty 22 is a 22.31ft cat ketch (unstayed) designed by David Thomas and built in fiberglass by Hunter Boats Ltd. (UK) between 1982 and 1987.

65 units have been built..

The Liberty 22 is a light sailboat which is under powered. It is reasonably stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.

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Hunter Liberty 22 and Liberty/Minstral 23 differences

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• Start date 22 Feb 2016
• 22 Feb 2016

I almost managed the purchase of a Hunter Liberty 22 that had been sitting for over 2 years in a boat yard after coming off its moorings, but just before travelling down with the agreed price the boat yard said "a bit more money is needed, how much more would you offer". I walked away at that stage a little annoyed. Still looking for a hunter Liberty/Minstral and my discussions with a friend brings me to my 2 questions 1. The differences between the 22 and 23 versions of these boats appears to be a) Window shapes b) bigger rig on the 23 and c) That the 23 had an additional 300lb (140kg) of ballast added ,mainly (or all) in the form of deeper and heavier cast iron bilge keels. With ref to c) I was told that the reason for the addition ballast was that the 22 was susceptible to a wipe out and wasn't happy self righting.( I know if you reef earlier that could avoid the situation anyway) Does anyone know how true this is and will just adding 300lb (140kg) to the 22 resolve this or are the 2 deeper bilge keels the important bits. Do I therefore concentrate on finding 23 rather than a 22 because overall it is a better boat?? 2. Trailers-. When I bought my last trailer sailer it was on its original trailer it came with. Turned out the boat was 130kg heaver than capacity of trailer even when completely stripped of everything not nailed down. Not wanting to be in that position again does anyone know if a) the 22 and 23 piggyback trailers were the same and b) the plated weights of these trailers. Normally the plate will have at least the maximium total combined weight of trailer and boat (and sometimes the trailer weight which allows you to then calculate the max boat weight that can be put on the trailer ) I ask this because I can tow upto 2100kg so if the trailer happens to be plated with a higher max weight I can't tow it. And if I buy a 22 with its original trailer then add the 140kg extra ballast to bring it in line with a 23 will that then exceed the max trailer weight. Ideally I will be very happy if the max plated trailer weight is 2000kg ( or say 4,400/4,500lb) as I believe this will allow sufficient leaway to add all the other bits and pieces for a boat and the ballast and still be under 2000kg. I'm going to post this question on the Hunter Liberty and Minstral Owners Association site too as I am now a member, but thought past owners etc may have a view and the answers might be helpful for any prospective buyers. Thank you anyone for any thoughts on this. Bremar.  

I have had both a 22 and a 23 and both were great boats. The 23 felt a bit heavier, not just as lively an responsive as the 22, but still a nice boat to sail. The windows on the 22 are better, and look better than the 23, but the biggest difference I noticed was that the 23 had heavier masts, and I would not want a 22 which had not had the masts sleeved to the same spec as the 23, but then you need to add the extra ballast - easily done with internal ballast - to counteract the extra weight aloft, and then increase the sail area to push the heavier boat. If the 22 was cheap enough to allow you to make the changes then I would be be quite happy with one.  

• 24 Feb 2016

1. Thanks cat ketch. I think your post nicely sums up the general position. Hi Geoff. I guess when you I made a statement in my first post above that I was told that the reason for the addition ballast was that the 22 was susceptible to a wipe out and wasn't happy self righting. That was probably my incorrect interpretation of a conversation I had had. It would have been more correct to say there had been reported incidents of the 22 being laid flat but no such incidents have ever been reported with regard to the heavier ballasted 23. This is probably better put in context by someone who later said to me "First time I have heard this idea and I have been involved since I boat tested the prototype in 1980" 2. The ballast difference appears to be 200lb not 300lb.(140kg) 3. Simply adding 200lb (91kg) of ballast to a 22 may put extra strain on the existing rig which might need sleeving to strengthen it. 4. It has been suggested that the heaver rig on the 23 includes bigger sails and heavier/stronger masts? 5. As yet I haven't found out what the actual details are on the relevant trailer plates used on the trailers for the 22 and 23. It's important to note that there is a difference between the plate on the tow hitch and the plate on the trailer. The tow hitch plate will say weights min and max to indicate the range of trailer weights it is suitable for. It is the trailer plate that is the important one here. 6. An interesting observation was that, as an alternative to putting heavier ballast in a 22 you could replace the aluminium masts with carbon. Expensive but an alternative. Just thought I'd update the link. Thank you Bremar.  

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Hunter Boat Data Liberty 22/23

Liberty 22/23

The Hunter Liberty is a David Thomas designed GRP 22 foot, cat ketch rigged, three berth, trailable, centreboard yacht of one tonne displacement. The cast iron centreboard, allied to two cast iron bilge keels, provides stability and enables the yacht to safely dry out on the level and be easily boarded.

The bilge keel and centreboard arrangement also allows the yacht to be more easily launched and retrieved from a trailer, and thus enable the trailing of the vessel to alternate locations, either for storing or expanded sailing ventures.

The cat ketch rig does not require any standing rigging and both can be raised and lowered by a single person.

The rig is also self-tacking, which is an advantage to the solo sailor.

The Liberty 23 varied slightly with the same hull, more ballast, with slightly more sail area. When the free-standing aluminium masts for the Liberty (cat ketches) were no longer available, Hunter introduced a gaff rigged sloop version with the same hull called the Minstrel which was built until 1993.

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Balcony staterooms were designed for maximum sea breeze and the most stunning views, so look to a balcony if you’re looking to cruise aboard Carnival Liberty. Any time you’re in your room, you’re just steps away from your own personal outdoor oasis, featuring the sort of sea view you can also feel.

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The original hull design by Dudley Dix is a Hout Bay 70, a two-masted gaff-rigged schooner intended as a heavy but fast offshore cruiser. Many alterations were made to the design, including adding a spoon bow, scaling down the lines to meet U.S. Coast Guard parameters, redesigning the deck layout and adjusting the rig to a three-masted staysail design.

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Beam:  13'    Draft:  6.5'     Beam:  13'    Draft:  6.5'     Beam:  11'    Draft:  5'     Beam:  8'9'    Draft:  6'3'     Beam:  9.58'    Draft:  4'     Beam:  9.7'    Draft:  4' © 2001-2024 ./)   . . ./)   . . Forum Listing Marketplace Advanced Search About The Boat Boat Review Forum SailNet is a forum community dedicated to Sailing enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about sailing, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, repairs, reviews, maintenance, and more! Info on Liberty 28 Add to quote Hello fellow sailors, I'm looking to buy another sailboat and have my eye on a Liberty 28. Unfortunately there's zero information on the internet. I called Liberty Yachts (who now build powerboats) and they said they have no written information about these sailboats - bummer!. The little info available is here: LIBERTY 28 - SAILBOAT PORTAL (specs. English) I'd appreciate any other info on this boat: hull construction, # of hulls built, sailing characteristics, etc. Thanks all.   Liberty 28 Hi! I've been living aboard my Liberty 28 for 32 years, and cruised some 25,000 miles with her. In my estimation, this boat is one of the best small cruisers ever built. I have hull #6 of the 30 (I think) built. The guy that had #4 had been across the Atlantic and back something like 10 times before selling her in Istanbul. During his ownership, he got into a force 12 storm in the Bay of Biscay and suffered no damage other than breaking his vane gear. I've had mine as far as Grenada. These were semi custom boats, and as such were tailored to the needs of the owners. Several layouts were produced. I've seen ballast from 4800lbs to the 5500lbs in mine. They have a very comfortable motion in a seaway and are quite speedy for the size and type. The designer has told me these top out at 8.4 knots. Mine does better. Personally, I don't think you could do better.   Toucanook said: Liberty 28 Hi! I've been living aboard my Liberty 28 for 32 years, and cruised some 25,000 miles with her. In my estimation, this boat is one of the best small cruisers ever built. I have hull #6 of the 30 (I think) built. The guy that had #4 had been across the Atlantic and back something like 10 times before selling her in Istanbul. During his ownership, he got into a force 12 storm in the Bay of Biscay and suffered no damage other than breaking his vane gear. I've had mine as far as Grenada. These were semi custom boats, and as such were tailored to the needs of the owners. Several layouts were produced. I've seen ballast from 4800lbs to the 5500lbs in mine. They have a very comfortable motion in a seaway and are quite speedy for the size and type. The designer has told me these top out at 8.4 knots. Mine does better. Personally, I don't think you could do better. Click to expand... I saw the date, but thought it might be useful for anyone who is looking for a great little bluewater cruiser. That is, if they can find one of these, since they are rare. So far as the 32 years go, I have found that if you are cut out for living aboard, there is nothing, absolutely nothing so satisfactory. At this point I'd say I am. Conversely, if you're not cut out for it, regardless of the most noble intentions, you will be off the boat within a year or so. The Greeks were right - "Know Thyself". 8.4 knots is speedy for any 28 footer, much less less a heavy double ended cruiser. I built Toucan from a hull and deck. So, in her case, I filled and faired the prop aperture in the sternpost and rudder and use an outboard. She has a minimum number of through hulls below the waterline. In doing so, it cut so much drag that she will outdo her sisters by over 23% at 10.4 knots. I've seen her do this for hundreds of miles at a time when the wind is over 15 knots and the point of sail is a tight reach or less. I've had so much fun embarrassing much bigger boats over the years it isn't even funny. A clean bottom can pay huge dividends. Aside from the speed advantage, a 28 footer with no inboard has as much interior volume as a 32 footer with an inboard. Where the engine was supposed to be there is 40 gallons of water and a 4 man life raft. In the bow, where the water tanks were supposed to be, there's 200 ft of 3/8" chain. It all balances out. As an aside... this October, I plan to leave from Titusville, FL and sail down the coast to mess about in the Keys some. From there, sail up the coast to see some friends in Tampa Bay, then perhaps stop by New Orleans for a few days before heading over to Corpus Christi, TX. There, Toucan will get trucked over to San Diego. I expect to spend some time checking out the Channel Islands National Park, then spend a month provisioning for a passage down to the Marquesas Islands. Where I go from there is open, but crossing an ocean is the last major item on my bucket list, so from there I expect to blow downwind to Tahiti, Bora Bora, the Cook Islands, etc., and eventually end up in Australia before starting back. Assuming I come back. I suspect I will elect to take the prevailing westerlies back east, turn left to catch the Austral Islands and French Polynesia again, then up to Hawaii, thence around the NE Pacific high to Puget Sound. While I am okay with doing this single handed it would be nice to have someone along, as it makes such a voyage a lot more fun. So if you know someone who would be interested in being gone for a few years, point them my way if you would. While I would prefer a woman, anyone will do if of appropriate adventurous spirit and sterling character. Nobody around here seems interested. Wusses....   Liberty 28 rudder I just bought a Liberty 28 cutter.. I would love to know what is the core of the rudder. Foam or plywood?.. anyone know?   Rudder Congratulations on purchasing what I consider to be one of the finest small blue water cruisers ever built, and one of only thirty. It is neither foam nor plywood. Mine (#6) has an interior of what is apparently resin and microballoons. I've had my L28 since 1978 and wouldn't trade her for any other boat. Seakindly, nice motion, fairly weatherly and speedy. Pretty much across the board, the 28's will do 8.4 knots. Since I left out the inboard and filled and faired the prop aperture, she does 10.4 knots. No kidding.   Thank you I am the happiest person in the world with my new boat..Just got her in May. Thanks for the response about the rudder.. I was hoping it wasn't plywood.. good news!   Sounds like a great adventure. Do you have a monitor? I was looking at other Liberty's and how they mounted the monitor on the boomkin, but moved the back stay. I will be sailing the San Francisco bay for a few years.. then hopefully take a left out the Gate.   How are your travels going?. Have you made it through the canal?.. Just checking in on another Liberty 28. I was wondering if you posted photos or a blog about your adventures.. I would be interested in seeing photos of the boat.. interior and topsides.. I am getting my boat ready to cruise.. and I am always looking for fresh ideas. Thanks.. and fair winds..   I haven't left yet. Right now the refit is winding down and I expect to get out of here in the next couple of months. The French have modified the stay time fro 87 days to 18 months. Since Polynesia doesn't generally get cyclones, all I have to worry about is hurricane season in the Caribbean, and otherwise it doesn't really matter, since the remaining trip can be reset by staying French Polynesia longer. Rough duty. The boat's interior still looks like a bomb hit it. When the tide of tools and material subsides, I'll do some pictures, which will appear on Somedayi.com, and supposedly on facebook. The 28's, all 30 of them, were semi custom boats. When people went to Joe (Fennel) to look at his boats, he asked them what they planned to do with the boat, and adjusted ballast accordingly. Thus, ballast in these boats ranges from 4500 to 5500lbs. You may wish to find what ballast you have. If you plan to cruise the world and have 4500, I would add the additional half ton. You get a stiffer boat.   Is Sam (Boyle, I think) still running the place?   Thanks for the quick response. I have 4500lbs for ballast.. Hull#2. I might have to think about joining facebook in the future in order to see some photos.. either way.. it would be nice to read/hear about the retrofit. I do not know Sam.. or which place you are referring to.. but thanks for your input.. always appreciated!   Mine is #6. #4 went across the Atlantic and back 10 times that I know of. Does your 28 have a bumpkin? The early ones did, If I recall, and later went to a split backstay instead. He also moved the mast forward in later boats for better balance about the time I bought my hull and deck, as soon afterward he told me to move the step as far forward on the mast step timber as I could get it. Sam Boyle was the idiot who ran JSI into the ground as well as Sailnet.   Mine has the bumpkin.. no split stay.. i have been looking at the rig.. thinking .. how can i mount an Aries wind vane on the back with the bumpkin. and back stay.. I noticed the design was changed a bit on the later hulls.. some significantly in the interiors.. anyway.. I will work with what I have.. cause I love this boat!   If you dropped the bumpkin and did a split backstay, adding an Aires would be no problem. I use a Monitor on mine.   Hi, I know this thread is old but I am looking to find information on the Liberty 28 cutter. My wife and I are in the market for a strong and capable little cruiser and this model cape up. We will be taking a look at one soon. Are there any weak areas or particular issues you can point out from your experience? Any info is appreciated. Thanks, Paulo   hopefully toucan still on board i am looking at a Liberty 28 and am very appreciative of info. Toucan when you removed inboard, did you build a well or did you just hang the outboard off one side ? remote controls or do you just reach over the side and use a tiller handle ? size hp ? thanks so much   drakes said: hopefully toucan still on board i am looking at a Liberty 28 and am very appreciative of info..... Click to expand... http://www.sailboatlistings.com/sailimg/m/57066/main.jpg Very Interesting Boat. I wouldn't remove the inboard on any Boat, utility and balance would be adversely affected IMO.   Anyone out there that might have info on the Liberty 28? Just got one I was after for years. 1 month into refit. Many questions for anyone who might have owned one. Any information will be good information.   Hey, Commander. I'm going to look at a Liberty 28 over in Melbourne, Florida in a couple of weeks. Hoping she turns out to be in decent shape. Then it's refit while sailing Tampa Bay until October 2025 when we set out to explore the Caribbean for eight months or so. After that, "as long as it's fun" we'll keep going. I expect I'll be coming back here for conversations about refitting her. Or maybe I'll start a Google Group...   ?             176.4K members Top Contributors this Month 235 IMAGES LIBERTY 22 Hunter Hunter Liberty 22 1983 Cruising Yacht For Sale in Plymouth Hunter Liberty 22 for sale from United Kingdom 1984 British Hunter Liberty 22 à vendre. 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Builders: Hunter Marine (USA) Associations: Hunter 22 / Marlow Hunter 22 Owner's Group ... Like the LWL, it will vary with the weights of fuel, water, stores and equipment. A boat's actual draft is usually somewhat more than the original designed or advertised draft. For boats with adjustable keels ... All Hunter Boats Liberty 22/23 Sailing Yachts for sale in the UK All Hunter Boats Liberty 22/23 Sailing Yachts for sale in the UK. Used Hunter Boats Liberty 22/23 for sale UK - View All. 20 Sport 1. 27 OOD 1. 707 2. Channel 27 1. Channel 31 2. Channel 32/323 5. Delta 25 4. Duette 2. Horizon 21 1. Horizon 23/232 5. Horizon 26 3. Horizon 27 T/K 1. Horizon 272/273 4. Horizon 30 2. Horizon 32 1. Impala 2. Medina ... LIBERTY 28 A boat with a BN of 1.6 or greater is a boat that will be reefed often in offshore cruising. 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