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Review of the O'Day Mariner 19 Sailboat

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For over 40 years, the 19-foot Mariner sailboat has been a popular daysailer. Based on the hull of the fast, stable Rhodes 19, the Mariner added a small cabin and other features. Built by O'Day from 1963 through 1979, and currently, by Stuart Marine, the Mariner was marketed as a family daysailer.

As one of the first affordable, trailerable fiberglass sailboats, the Mariner has been popular on lakes and protected bays every since. With its roomy cockpit, wide-beamed stability, and easy sailing characteristics, the Mariner deserves its reputation and is still among the best general-purpose sailboats of its size.

• Excellent boat for learning to sail and for family daysailing
• Stable and handles well if wind or waves kick up
• Very large cockpit provides comfortable sailing for 4 to 6 crew
• Solid and well constructed; older boats have held up well
• Self-righting and positive flotation
• Cabin is useful for daysailing but cramped for sleeping aboard for long
• Older boats susceptible to leaks in centerboard locker (if abused by previous owners)
• Early models lacked self-bailing cockpits

Specifications

• Length overall: 19 feet 2 inches
• Beam: 7 feet
• Draft: keelboat: 3 feet 3 inches - centerboard up: 10 inches - centerboard down: 4 feet 11 inches
• Empty weight: keelboat: 1435 lbs. - centerboard: 1305 lbs.
• Sail area (main and fractional jib): 185 sqft
• Mast height (deck-stepped): 27 feet 10 inches
• Rudder: keelboat: fixed - centerboard: kick-up
• Recommended outboard engine: 2-6 HP
• MSRP $24,000 depending on options - widely available used (NADA Marine Guide average retail price for 1977 models: $2,110)
• Parts readily available for older boats, plus information from owners and class associations

Review of the Mariner 19 Sailboat

In the 1950s the Rhodes 19 was a popular wooden racing and daysailing sailboat. In 1963 Olympic gold-medal sail racer George O'Day bought the hull design, redesigned the topsides with a small cabin, and began producing one of the first affordable fiberglass family sailboats, the Mariner 19. While still producing a keel version, O'Day offered a centerboard option that improved trailer launching and allowed the Mariner to sail up to a beach.

The Mariner rapidly became a popular club one-design racer but also a good family boat seen widely on lakes and bays. By 1979 O'Day had produced almost 3800 Mariners - a huge number for any one model - and after O'Day discontinued the Mariner to focus on larger cruising sailboats, Spindrift and then Stuart Marine continued building the Mariner. The Mariner is still being built - probably the longest continuous production run of any sailboat model ever.

In the late 1960s and 1970s, design changes increased the Mariner's popularity for family sailing. The 2+2 model added two more berths in the cabin, for a total of four, although the cabin really is too cramped to call this boat a cruiser. (Sleeping aboard is more like backpack camping.) The cockpit length was increased to the transom, making a much larger space than in most boats of this size.

The current model includes nonskid on deck and the cockpit seats, all control lines led to the cockpit, positive flotation, and a kick-up rudder on the centerboard model that allows the boat into very shoal waters. With its wide beam and fractional jib that reduces heeling, the Mariner is stable and safe to sail in most conditions.

Virtually all Mariner owners say they'd buy one again - they have no regrets. The features most commonly cited are its stability ("virtually untippable"), its oversized cockpit (where you spend most of your time anyway), and how easily it can be launched (even on a shallow boat ramp).

Perhaps most important, the Mariner is very forgiving of the sailor's mistakes - and thus is an excellent beginning boat. The few complaints of Mariner owners focus on the cramped interior, where the cabin roof is too low for taller people to sit on the settees without bumping your head.

Good Mariners can readily be found on the used market. There are more likely to be problems with an old trailer (rust, wear and tear) than the fiberglass boat itself unless it was abused by a previous owner. For a new owner, The Mariner Class Association offers many benefits, including boat information, sailing tips, sources for parts, and a newsletter.

If you're interested in a small sailboat with a bigger cabin for pocket cruising, check out the West Wight Potter 19 - an outstanding small sailboat. If you’re thinking about a trailerable sailboat like the Potter 19, remember that one of the great advantages is the ability to take it easily to other sailing destinations, such as heading to the Florida Keys in the winter.

Here’s an inexpensive, effective way to control your tiller if you have to let go for a moment while sailing. Need a new outboard motor for your small sailboat? Check out the great new propane-powered outboards from Lehr. If you own a trailer for your boat, be sure you maintain it adequately both to keep it working into the future but to stay safe when using it.

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O'Day 19

O'Day 19 is a 18 ′ 11 ″ / 5.8 m monohull sailboat designed by Raymond Hunt (C.R. Hunt & Assoc.) and John Deknatel and built by Bangor Punta Corp. and O'Day Corp. starting in 1979.

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Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

Centerboard weight = 52 lbs / 23.6 kg Displacement includes a crew weight of 640 lbs / 290.3 kg Minimum trailering weight = 1350 lbs / 612.35 kg

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So an O'Day 192 recently popped up for sale in my area. Naturally, I went about researching the boat and comparing it to others in the same price range, and I was shocked to find that there is next to no information about the boat. Does anyone know why this is? O'Day doesn't even have a wikipedia page that lists the models or has any information about the company. Some of the only information I could find was on the site iheartodays but even their information is limited.  

One of the reasons, O'Day went out of business some years ago. Try Sailboatdata.com for info on just about any sailboat built in the past 40-50 years.  

A Splendid tip! O'DAY 192 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com  

I was hoping for more information in the form of user experience, reviews, comparisons, etc... Rather than a bunch of numbers that basically don't mean anything to me  

Sorry we couldn't help.  

Try Odayowners.com. Maybe you can find something there.  

Whole bunch of 192's on youtube. You should learn about the numbers someday. They are the information you need to know about your boat.  

from my experience after buying an O'day 19 this year. (haven't sailed it yet) not a ton of info out there, but the oday owners group mentioned above has been helpful. it does seem like a well built boat and I was able to purchase a manual for it. (really a few loose pages but it got me the info I needed) apparently the 192 has a larger cabin and more of a shoal keel with a drop down board, other than that, same boat as a 19.  

a bag of it said: So an O'Day 192 recently popped up for sale in my area. Naturally, I went about researching the boat and comparing it to others in the same price range, and I was shocked to find that there is next to no information about the boat. Does anyone know why this is? O'Day doesn't even have a wikipedia page that lists the models or has any information about the company. Some of the only information I could find was on the site iheartodays but even their information is limited. Click to expand...

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Review of O'Day 19

Basic specs..

The hull is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season. And outside the sailing season, just bottom cleaning and perhaps anti-fouling painting once a year - a few hours of work, that's all.

The boat equipped with a fractional rig. A fractional rig has smaller headsails which make tacking easier, which is an advantage for cruisers and racers, of course. The downside is that having the wind from behind often requires a genaker or a spinnaker for optimal speed.

CentreBoard

The O'Day 19 is equipped with a centreboard keel. A centreboard keel is a pivoting lifting keel, allowing to sail both coastal and inland waters.

The boat can sail close to the beach as the draft is just 0.30 - 0.40 meter (0.98 - 1.28 ft) dependent of the load. See immersion rate below.

Sailing characteristics

This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.

The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for O'Day 19 is about 80 kg/cm, alternatively 449 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 80 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 449 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.

Sailing statistics

This section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points.

What is L/B (Length Beam Ratio)?

The l/b ratio for O'Day 19 is 2.45.

Sorry, we do not have sufficient statistical information available for this boat to provide a significant reliable analysis.

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First Boat- O'Day 192?

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• Start date May 20, 2019
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Hello everyone, I'm working on buying my first boat this week. I have a bit of sailing experience but I am certainly rusty, but looking forward to sailing and learning a lot this summer. I'm seriously considering this O'day 192 to sail on Lake Champlain. I'm looking for something in this size range that I could take on a weekend trip here and there and sleep on it occasionally with one person, and take a few friends out for day sails. I've read some good things about this boat, but the main concern anyone has put forward is that these boats are a bit slow and don't sail as well as say a Cat 22 or something in that realm. For me, I feel that it may not make a huge difference as I'm just getting back into sailing and I won't be racing. But, I want a boat that's fun to sail and has at least half decent performance/speed. Can anyone shed some light on this? Should I buy this boat?! note- it's one of the only decent options with 2 hours or so of me. There were a few Cat 22s that sold quickly. this is a link to the boat if you'd like to see it. https://nh.craigslist.org/boa/d/windsor-oday-192/6887075789.html Thanks for your help! -Adam  

If the trailer is in good shape (including tires) and the trailer lights work.... and the sails are not blown (ask for a test sail) and the O.B. does indeed start right up, AND the keel does not need a lot of work... then that is a good deal. She looks well cared for. An important trick is to try and start the motor again after the test sail... when the motor is cooled down. Sometimes people will run the O.B. for a long time right before the buyer gets there and it starts right up because it is still hot.  

Hello and welcome adbk710, I remember really admiring the Oday 192 at a time when we owned our first sailboat, a Lockley Sea Witch (aka plastic bath tub). The one you are looking at seems nice for a boat with some age. Boarding ladder is a plus, boom high enough so it won't be a head knocker, good sized cockpit for crew. Be aware that in a boat that size you will find that the bow goes up and changes the sailing characteristics of the boat if you fill the cockpit with people. I like the stern shape since it is not just a flat end of the boat which would detract from its appearance and its sailing ability (in my opinion). The 192 seems to be a good choice as a first boat that is trailerable. Over the years we have owned 3 Oday boats and enjoyed each one for their individual characteristics. Best wishes, 31seahorse. Excuse me, Adam, I missed your name the first time I read your post. Additionally, I have often said that boats we have owned sailed better than we did! That will certainly be true for your first boat. Enjoy the experience.  

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I would say that a 192 should fit your situation, and be a good boat to learn (or re-learn?) sailing techniques. I wonder if those that mention the 192 as being "slow" may be referring to the original sails, using a furling jib that was setup on a wire-luff furler that was at best, inefficient. Many owners have upgraded to a better furler that fits over the forestay and will allow a much better set of the sail, I would think that would help a lot! Others have eliminated the furler and had hanks added to the jib that clip to the forestay, the only problem there is the jib halyard block may need to be relocated higher on the mast to accommodate the repositioned jib (original furler required jib to be set back from the forestay to avoid interference.) A good sailor can make a slow boat faster, and a so-so sailor could turn a J-22 into a "slug". Funny thing is, I've heard people describe the Cat 22 as "slow"........... like a said above, sailboat performance can often be affected more by skippering skills than design. I used to have a friend with a San Juan 21, hardly a slow boat, but I would have to all but drag an anchor to not sail away from him in my Day Sailer II with blown-out OEM (1979!) sails. My Dad and I were pretty evenly matched (in boat speed) when he was sailing our old CAL 21 (similar boat to the SJ 21), so a SJ 21 should have easily kept up with my boat or even sailed slightly faster.  

@adbk710 that looks like a nice boat in the pics and it is hank on jib so should be much better then a fuller on that size boat. For $3k with a trailer and newer outboard is hard to beat. I'd say have fun the first year and then think about new sails your second. I had old sails my fist year and they worked, but switching to new sails our second season was a great improvement to the boat sailing abilities. I didn't realize how big of an improvement it would be, but is worth the money. Lots of winter sales on sails so wait till then.  

I love mine. I use hank on 110% jib. She sails best on a reach, and in light air I can beat Catalina 22s and Beneteau First 235 off the wind. She doesn't point too terribly well compared to some boat, but well enough. There are a couple others 192s on our lake, and I can walk away from most, including one set up with a furling 135% genoa. I don't want to bother putting sail track down the side decks, so I just keep on with my 110%. Some track on the cabin top would help with jib twist. I wish it had a traveller, but the only real option is a custom transom mount bridge over the tiller, which would make climbing in on the swim ladder more difficult. Mine points higher on port tack because the boom gets pulled slightly more to port by the offset backstay. I rigged an adjustable topping lift so I can vang sheet, and sometimes in light air I will get twist set between topping lift and vang, and then pull the boom slightly over the centerline as if I had a traveler, in order to point a few degrees higher, say to clear a headland without having to throw in an extra tack. I've slept and cooked on mine plenty with a 1 burner butane stove like they use for buffet omelets, and a SS grill I clamp in a janky way to the aft cockpit handles. I love my little 192.  

I got back into sailing on a 195 Weekender...it was a great boat, not the fastest on the bay, but I took it out to Cuttyhunk Island, about 10 miles from my home harbor, many times. I think it would be a great choice. It got me loving sailing again and 20 years later, it’s my life!  

Oops...I mean my 192...time blurs the details!  

mister_j said: Oops...I mean my 192...time blurs the details! Click to expand

If you did not get the one in the listing I have one you can call me 5087403523 Charlie  

I still use and enjoy my O'Day 19 (very much like the O'Day 192) as my trailer sailer. I first sailed it on Lake Champlain. The centerboard is fiberglassed plywood (about 50 lbs) with the keel holding the 300 lbs of lead ballast. (The 192 has 400 lbs.) It is fun to sail alone or with 4 adults on board. I use a Torqeedo Travel 1003c electric motor to go along with quiet "green" sailing. The Catalina 22 has a similar rating to the O'Day 192 but has an 800 lbs swing keel. I like the lighter centerboard. It can be raised without affecting the center of gravity. It also beaches easily. Unless you are a hardcore "racer", the O'Day 192 will be satisfying. The O'Day 19 is very close to the Rhodes 19. The O'Day 192 is just a little slower, but far from being sluggish. My primary sailboat is a Catalina Capri 22 which I keep in Winthrop MA.  

I'm guessing you bought the boat? I went to look at the listing and it is saying that it was taken down by the seller. Good luck, I think that would be a very nice boat to sail on Champlain. Same lake I sail on... dj  

I still have one call me at 508-740-3523  

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@adbk710 Adam... Come back man and tells us what happened. Great to have you join, but you need to not just tease us with “I’m going to buy a boat” and then disappear. Hope it turned our to your satisfaction.  

Hello everyone!! Very sorry for the radio silence on my end! I bought the boat! 1985 O'day 192. I will post some photos when I get some decent ones. The boat is being bottom painted this week because it had some really old chipping paint and everywhere I read says that I need to paint the bottom in Lake Champlain because of algea and zebra mussels. The guy is using an Interlux paint, can't remember which exactly. Only other thing is that the boat has an indent or two from the trailer, so I had them check it at the marina to make sure there's no cracking and they said it's okay, and I'm having him check the spot on the inside this week as well to make sure. I'm stepping the mast this weekend - should be a good time, never done this before!.....  

Have lots of fun. All pictures are good ones when they involve your boat. Some may be a little better than others.  

You'll be happy with your 192, it's built like a tank. Take care of her and she'll take care of you.  

You may find this website useful for spare parts https://www.drmarine.com/ Rudy was a parts manager for O'day when they were in business.  

Rudy made a new rudder for me this spring. Nearly everything O'Day to keep your boat in shape. By the way, I figured out how to remove the winches for maintenance, or replacement. Push down hard in the center of the winch while pulling upward on the drum. A Lewmar #6 will fit right in.  

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