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Islands 17 is a 16 ′ 9 ″ / 5.1 m monohull sailboat designed by Johann Tanzer and built by Ocean Yachts / Sumner Boat Co. (USA) starting in 1972.
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The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
Classic hull speed formula:
Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
Sail Area / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.
SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
- SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
- D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
Displacement / Length Ratio
A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
Comfort Ratio
This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening Formula
This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.
CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
The ISLANDS 17 is most likely a ‘splashed’ copy of the TANZER 16 with a reverse transom giving it a slightly longer waterline length. Those who have seen both boats have all commented on the striking similarity, especially in the case of earlier boats by Ocean Yachts. The later version, built by Sumner, (also called SUMNER ISLANDS 17), has a cockpit liner with added flotation as well as number of other modifications. Thanks to ‘Dave from Maine’ for additional information on this yacht.
Both companies were located on Long Island, NY, USA
Sumner Boat Co. was located at: 334 South Bayview Ave. Amityville NY. 11701
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One-Design Class Type: Dinghy
Was this boat built to be sailed by youth or adults? Both
Approximately how many class members do you have? 15-20
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About Tanzer 16
The boat was designed in Canada by Johann Tanzer who recognized the need for a “family friendly” sailboat built with a solid design that was both stable and fast. The boat is 16 feet long with a center board. The rig consists of a non-tapered mast with external halyards and no spreaders. The boats often sport a spinnaker that can be launched from an integral deck chute, simplifying set up and take down. A Tanzer 16 can be rigged and on the water in 30-45 minutes. Since this is a One-Design Class, the specifications and measurements are tightly controlled. The goal is to promote family sailing and racing, eliminating the need for costly equipment. The Tanzer 16 Class Association is an active, tight knit group that is always looking to expand. The Tanzer 16 is no longer in production, but that should not deter the prospective Tanzer skipper. The used boat market is very active in this area and a race ready boat with sails and trailer can be found for around $1000 to $2400. The Tanzer 16 Class Association promotes a racing series in multiple venues in NC in association with the South Atlantic Yacht Racing Association (SAYRA).
Boats Produced: ~1700
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Not currently in production, although the Class Association owns and maintains the molds.
Approximately how many boats are in the USA/North America? ~1500
Where is your One-Design class typically sailed in the USA? List regions of the country:
Most organized activities are in North Carolina and the Mid-Atlantic Region; However, the Tanzer 16 is sailed throughout the USA and Canada.
Does this class have a spinnaker or gennaker? Yes
How many people sail as a crew including the helm? 2
Ideal combined weight of range of crew: 250 to 320, depending upon wind velocity.
Portsmouth Yardstick Rating: 101
Boat Designed in ~1968
Length (feet/inches): 16’4″
Beam: 6’2″
Weight of rigged boat without sails: 425
Draft: 7″ to 2’9″
Mast Height: 25′
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The Islands 17 is a 16.75ft fractional sloop designed by Johann Tanzer and built in fiberglass since 1972.
The Islands 17 is an ultralight sailboat which is a very high performer. It is stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a racing boat.
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| Model | Islands 17 | ||
| Length | 16.75 ft | ||
| Beam | 6.50 ft | ||
| Draft | 0.58 ft | ||
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| Sail area / displ. | 31.28 | ||
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| Displ. / length | 64.71 | ||
| Comfort ratio | 4.56 | ||
| Capsize | 3.13 |
| Hull type | Centerboard Dinghy | ||
| Construction | Fiberglass | ||
| Waterline length | 15.83 ft | ||
| Maximum draft | 3.50 ft | ||
| Displacement | 575 lbs | ||
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| Hull speed | 5.33 knots |
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| Sail area (100%) | 135 sq.ft | ||
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| First built | 1972 | ||
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This unusual, flush-deck 1970s-era boat draws a bit too much to be a true trailer-sailer, but her performance nearly rivals a J/24. The cockpit is big, but the cabin quite small.
We originally reviewed the Tanzer 22 in the December 1, 1981 issue, but a friend of ours did such a good job restoring the 25-year-old T-22 he inherited from his father that we decided to take a second look. The T-22’s accommodations haven’t gotten any more workable than they were when we first sailed her; her aesthetics are, at best, “unique,” and we doubt she’d have much luck in a drag race with lighter 22’s like those that have come on the market since she was introduced in 1970. Still, she’s simple and fun to sail. She’s also capable enough as a cruiser and challenging enough as a racer to make her one of the most popular boats of her type ever built. There were 2,270 sold.
The Tanzer 22’s shortcomings may illustrate some of the ways that sailboats have gotten better over the years, but her strengths are still genuine. A pint-sized weekender/racer that wears well, the T-22 has earned remarkable loyalty from her owners.
Johann “Hans” Tanzer, designer/builder of the T-22, grew up in Austria where he apprenticed as a boatbuilder. Then he went to Switzerland where he built and raced dinghies and small boats. Finally he emigrated to Canada. He worked at first on one-offs, dinghies, and raceboats before starting his own shop. Tanzercraft built Lightnings, International 14s, and Y-Flyers. “Right from when I started in Austria the main thing was always racing…to make a boat go fast,” Tanzer said from his home near Dorion, Quebec. “Then I thought, ‘What about a boat for the family, for the average guy?’”
His answer was a 16-foot daysailer he called the Constellation, his first design. When his company expanded and became Tanzer Industries, Inc. in 1968, the Constellation became the Tanzer 16, and then Hans Tanzer drew up an overnighter version, the next step in appealing to the average guy.
Next up was the Tanzer 22.
“I was inspired a bit by Uffa Fox, some by George Hinterhoeller and what was happening at C&C; I knew how to make boats go fast. But for the 22 I wanted a boat that was first of all safe, that would be forgiving, that you would not need to be expert to sail, that would let families sail together.”
Design The T-22’s cockpit is large. It is well over 7′ long and (in the absence of side decks) utilizes the whole of the boat’s beam. It provides room to seat six and lets four sail comfortably. The well is deep, the seat backs are high, the seats slope outboard; it is secure and comfortable.
“We’ve sailed the boat for more than 20 years,” said an owner from Maine. “We like the roomy cockpit and solid feel. It’s a great boat for children as the cockpit is so deep and spacious.” Most owners say the same; its over-sized cockpit is a key to the appeal of the boat.
It is also, however, too big to drain quickly. And there is no bridgedeck. We asked Tanzer about the potential danger of filling the cockpit offshore and/or in heavy weather.
“The corner of the house deflects water and protects the cockpit from taking solid waves,” he answered. “My son and I took out the first boat we built and tried to break it. We had the spreaders in the water and the waves still didn’t come aboard. The water just streamed aft along the deck. The hull has plenty of freeboard and the cockpit sides are high. I think I should have made the cockpit more self-bailing, though.”
John Charters, once service manager at Tanzer Industries and now editor of the class newsletter, said, “Many owners have, like I did, added drains in the forward corner outboard end of the cockpit benches to drain what water comes aboard to the scuppers. I’ve seen T-22s with their keels out of the water, but I’ve never seen them swamp or heard of one that sank. When it starts to blow hard, though, I always sail with the bottom drop board in place in the companionway to make sure no water gets below.”
The T-22 displaces 2,900 pounds (3,100 for the keel/centerboard version). That’s heavy, even by 1970’s standards. The Catalina 22, a contemporary of the T-22, weighs 2,150 pounds. The more modern J/22 is just 1,790 pounds (and she’s hardly the lightest racer/cruiser available in this size range.) It’s natural to think of displacement as “dead weight,” especially in a small boat where size puts an effective limit on sail area. However, it can also translate (as we feel it does with the T-22) into robust scan’tlings and healthy ballast/displacement ratios. “Everything on the Tanzer is built extremely heavy-duty,” said one owner.
Tanzer put much of the T-22’s buoyancy in the after sections. As a result, she accommodates the weight of a cockpit full of sailors without squatting or deforming her sailing lines. Finally, the T-22 provides little of the “corky” feel that some small boats do. It would undoubtedly be possible to build the boat lighter today. That might improve it some, but the T-22’s solid feel and generous payload have endeared her to “the average guy,” and much of that is due to her heavy displacement.
The mainsail is small (112 sq. ft.) with almost no roach. Her spar is a “tree” in section and virtually unbendable. A 200 sq. ft. (170%) genoa provides the real muscle of the sail plan. We prefer a big controllable mainsail married to a small, non-overlapping jib for versatile, efficient sailpower. In a bigger boat an out-sized genny can become a man-killer. However, the Tanzer’s sails are small enough to handle. Putting most of the horsepower in the foretriangle is one way to limit weather helm and boost square footage for light air performance. A 375 sq. ft. spinnaker is allowed by the class. The T-22 sailplan, though dated, is proven and straightforward.
The hull and foil shapes also are products of their time. Not nearly so sharp of entry nor flat of exit as a modern racer/cruiser, hers is a “through-the-water” hull.
Like many racers from the early 70s, especially those produced by neighboring C&C, the T-22 has a swept-back keel. Designers have since plumbed the underwater mysteries with deltas, trapezoids, ellipses, bulbs, and wings. You don’t see swept-back fins much anymore, but they provide a generous and wide “groove” (which suits the boat well for the average sailor) and minimize wave-making resistance (which helps the boat accelerate and adds to her lively feel). Other shapes have come into fashion, but the T-22’s fin works well.
The same is not entirely true of the T-22 rudder. Tanzer’s original design was a shallow, aft-raking, semi-scimitar. He wanted, he said, a lift/drag profile to match the keel’s and a “fail-safe” element to keep sailors from “driving the boat into trouble.” What he got was a foil that tended to lift clear of the water and ventilate when the boat heeled in a puff.
“We should have replaced it right away,” said Charters, “but it took a long time before we developed a new one. It was deeper, semi-balanced, and straight on the leading edge. It worked! What used to involve fighting ‘on-the-edge’ weather helm is now a two-finger operation. We let the new rudder (it was developed by one of our owners and costs only about $200) and old rudder race together in our regattas.”
There aren’t many boats that look like the T-22. Her straight housetop/deck extends from stem to cockpit. The bow is spoon-curved but a bit bulbous. Very modern-looking in profile, the sheer is traditionally sprung, traced by a cove-stripe/rubbing strake that runs along the deckless “deckline,” which creates the illusion of low to medium freeboard while the actual hull/house sides are quite high. Except for the visual trickery involved with this cove stripe, Tanzer didn’t invest much in trying to make his boat look like something it wasn’t. Her big cockpit, raised side decks, and “good-for-the-average-guy” hull were the main thing, and that is what you get. From some angles she looks saucy, from some others silly.
Accommodations Dinettes were very popular in the ‘70s. “Convertible space” was the magic key to making little boats accommodate big people. Obviously, you have to bend some to cruise a boat this small.
The T-22’s headroom (4′ maximum) makes that point emphatic. So do the sharply tapered V-berth and the narrow quarter berth. The physical and visual “elbow room” created by taking the house side out to the rail, however, helps make the cabin less cramped. Still, the need to convert is a haunting reality. Change the table into the double berth, lift the forward berth to access the head beneath, convert the front-opening ice box into something you can live with underway, the hatch cover into a pop top, etc. and, after a while, “two-way space” becomes a mixed blessing.
Ventilation is another sore spot, but stowage (except for the “silly waste of space given over to the sink and ice box” noted by an owner from Lake George, New York) rates as “good” to “very good” with most owners. Hardly the heart of the design, the T-22’s interior has still let thousands enjoy the sort of limited cruising she was meant for.
Construction Eric Spencer, Tanzer Industries president from 1968 until 1985, now runs Yachting Services, Ltd. (Box 1045, Pointe Claire, Quebec H9S 4H9, Canada; 514/697-6952) that, among other activities, sells parts for the more than 8,000 Tanzers out there.
“Hans was always on the shop floor,” Eric said, “rarely in the office. He was prone to over-engineering things. You can see it in the T-22 keelbolts. They’re the same size we later used on the T-31. And we used the same mast section in the 26 with no problems. And the rigging—everyone else was using 1/8″ wire; Hans had to have 5/32″”
The hull/deck joint is an outboard flange joined by semi-rigid adhesive and 3/16″ machine screws on 6″ centers. Charters, the ex-service manager, said, “Though many owners report no leaks, the joint can leak—sometimes. One of the simpler systems and certainly one of the easiest to fix, it has some minor faults. Impact to the hull, even squeezing between lifting slings, can break the adhesive bond. Both the machine screws and the Monel pop rivets used on some boats may loosen where fasteners pulverize the fiberglass. Remember that the T-22 sails with her rubrail in the water. That pressure can turn even a tiny gap into a leak.”
Charters recommends removing the rubrail, (“but leave it attached at stem and stern or you’ll never get it back on,”) replacing (with oversized machine screws or through bolts) loose fasteners, and redoing the seal using BoatLIFE Life-Caulk or 3M 5200. This “two- to three-hour process,” he said, will renew most boats’ hull/deck joint to tightness.
The portlights originally relied on a sponge rubber inner gasket and a hard rubber outer seal. These, too, most likely will need to be renewed on older boats. Replacing the inner seal with butyl tape is one suggestion. Cutting new, over-sized ports from an acrylic or polycarbonate material (the original plastic clouds with age) and fastening them to the house side with sealant and mechanical fasteners is another good fix, owners report. “The sponge and spline seals I purchased (about $100) for the hull ports from Eric Spencer made re-doing the cabin ports easy. It took four hours and the leaks are completely gone!” said the owner of a 1981 model in Ontario.
An interior hull liner incorporates the berths, cabinets, sole, etc. It’s easy to assemble, and strong if done meticulously (as it seems to have been on the Tanzer floor). But when this construction system includes molded headliners it is hard to move or add deck hardware.
Resin-rich fiberglass from the era when the boat was first built is prone to becoming granular and powdery around screw holes. The early gelcoats craze easily. Still, most owners seem happy.
“Finish has held up very well over the years,” and “Boat looks like new,” were comments frequently heard about the T-22.
Our friend’s 25-year-old heirloom, however, had passed that stage. To bring the hull back he washed it down with Interlux 202, patched dings and scratches with epoxy and microballoons, then brushed on two coats of marine gloss enamel. The result rivals a professionally sprayed job while the cost (time, labor, and materials) is in keeping with the value of a quarter-century-old 22-footer.
The T-22’s iron keel is a sore point. Iron is 40% less dense than lead so you need more of it (at a cost in added wetted surface) to give the boat sufficient ballast. And it rusts. One owner said he discovered no primer beneath the bottom paint applied at the factory. Many sailors know the agonies of fairing a keel that scales and peels. For race-ready perfection you can fill the major craters with epoxy and then build and sand with a system like Interlux’s Interprotect (2000 E coating and V135 Watertite fairing). Not many owners are that far into their fleet racing, but most wish that the keel originally had been made of lead.
Performance Hans Tanzer’s solid background in performance boats, dinghies, and daysailers helped him design the sort of “safe and forgiving” yet lively sailboat he was looking for to appeal to the average guy. He struck a number of balances well. The big cockpit (little cabin), good stability (stiff but not rock-like), controllable rig, and powerful yet easily driven hull combine to give her good manners.
We sailed our friend’s newly painted boat through a drifty morning and a sea-breeze afternoon. In the river she was quick, but tacking the genoa made us wish for a smaller jib and bigger mainsail. On the ocean she was solid and dry. She tacked in 75° in smooth water, and short-tacked up a channel, quickly getting her foils working after a tack.
With a 15-knot breeze she surged rather than surfed. Her deep, rounded afterquarters make her easy to steer but reluctant to get up on plane where a J/22 might.
The strongest T-22 fleets are in Montreal and Ottowa, but American fleets are active, too. Said Charters, “We were the first cruiser/racer invited to CORK (Canadian Olympic-training Regatta at Kingston). We’ve moved now to the offshore course and start 5 minutes behind the J/24s. Usually, the first T-22s, light air or heavy, catch the straggling 24s. We’ve never beaten the winners though.”
PHRF ratings for the T-22 range between 92 and 98, while the J/24 rates between 88 and 98.
The standard mainsheet is attached to a strongpoint on the cockpit sole. A number of traveler options have been tried. Tracks mounted on the sole rather than on a cross-cockpit bridge cut up the cockpit less but offer less control.
You might point higher if you could sheet the genoa tighter, but the shrouds don’t let you. Also, those shrouds, not in perfect alignment with the tabernacle hinge at the base of the mast, must be loosened before you lower the mast. Depending on how (and how much) the wind is blowing, that can be a problem.
The keel/centerboard version (about 10% of the boats sold have this configuration) is less close-winded and, according to racers, not that much faster off the wind than the full keel. Either needs at least 5′ of depth to float off a trailer, so being ramp-launchable involves sending the trailer into the water on a tether.
Conclusions One of the biggest pluses for the boat is the 700-member owner’s association. It maintains Tanzer Talk (a newsletter) and egroups.com/tanzer (a website) that make fellowship as big a part of ownership as you’d like it to be. The owner of a 1979 model from Long Island Sound reports “an outstanding T-22 website (http//www.tanzer22.com) and network of owners who are always willing to help with ideas and experience.”
Built efficiently but using high quality materials throughout the boat (even the pop rivets are Monel), the T-22 commanded a higher price than many of her competitors.
A prospective buyer can still find cheaper ways into the pocket cruising experience, but not many offer the combination of big boat feel and reliability, plus raceboat life, that have suited the T-22 so well to Tanzer’s “average guy.”
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Thank You! Good article. Just purchased a Tanzer 22. Needing to get proficient at raising and lowering the mast. I received a few Tanzer.22 Newsletters with the boat. In Volume 2 Numbers 21 to 42 page 82 has a good article about ” Mast raising or lowering”. Its quite descriptive but a little confusion. It was written by Brian Rees from CA, I would love to talk with him and have him explain the details. If you know the article, review it and feel free to comment. hank you
Excellent article and review, thank you!
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Hi, I was looking for a first boat that I could learn to sail on take my family on (Wife, 2 boys aged 5 & 3). Of course the family would only come *after* taking a boating safety course and receiving some proper sailing instruction. I grew up on power boats but I can see this is a completely different beast.. After taking out Hobie cat while on vacation a few weeks ago, I feel hooked.. I do understand the Hobie is probably a much faster and more response boat but that’s ok… I saw the following listing for a tanzer 16 which I am going to look at this weekend: Here is the text of the listing (i was not able to post the link) **** This boat is in excellent condition with two main sails and three gibs. All sails are in good condition. All rigging has been replaced in 2008 and the teak has been refinished. Retractable centerboard and rudder. New sunbrella cover for entire cockpit. Same hull as the Flying Scott. New 2008 2.5 Mercury outboard. The trailer has been rebuilt. All equipment included Coast Guard package, anchor, lines, bumpers, and other equipment. Ready to go sailing nothing to purchase. **** The person listing it is asking for $2700 but it looks like there would not be too much to put into it I would be trailering it and using it in bay and harbor areas on Long Island such as Port Jefferson, Stony Brook Harbor and maybe the great south bay and the Long Island Sound. Would this boat be a good first boat? I was a little concerned about the size..
Tanzers tend to be nicely made. I looked up the picture and specs on the 16and it looks nice. Same hull as the Flying Scot??...aren't they a 19 footer? Has similar appearance though. What year is the boat you're looking at? They starting making the 16 in 1963. Old glass can be good glass, but it should be reflected in the price. In my opinion the price is on the high side. With a $2700 budget, I would think there'd be a lot more you could look at. Definitly check the Tanzer 16 owner's website and find out if there are any problem areas, like leaks around the centerboard, etc. Probably possible to find out a little more about what they sell for. It is NOT too big a boat to start with. A sixteen is an easy boat to trailer and launch. There's not too much of a mast to deal with each time you rig it. As much as I love a classic day sailer, the one bummer they all share is lack of a place to pee...other than putting it over the side. Mixed company can make that impractical. Once you leave the launch ramp, your adventures may be limited by the smallest bladder on board, unless you have convenient places to either beach it or tie up. A boat like a Catalina 22 or an O'Day 20 can be an ideal starter boat, but they're a lot more to haul and setup is more involved than with a 16 footer. Taking it apart after a long hot day with maybe a little sunburn, etc. can sour you on trailering real fast. Catalina and Hunter have both made 18 footers (approx) that have small cabins that can hold a porta pottie and are small enough to trailer and rig pretty easily. As you look for a day sailer (no cabin) you really want to throw out a low-ball offer and be prepared to walk away. I can tell you from experience that when you sell one, they can sit for quite awhile and command less money than you'd like. They seem to be both a little hard to find and a little hard to sell. Bottom line, whatever you start with, you're very likely to sell in a couple years as you either quit or refine your needs and replace with another boat. Price, price, price.
I would think a 16 ft would be a good starter boat but I think it might me a little small for the whole family all at once. If all you plan on doing is day sailing then it should be ok though. As for the price, I'm not an expert but I would say that it would have to be impeccable for me to spend that much on a 16. But then I'm a little on the cheap side anyway. lol
Oh...I just re-read your post and noticed the boys, 5 and 3. Yup, 16' is a bit of a size issue. If you have a "home base" after you launch it's not too small of a boat. Where I live, you could lauch the boat, and then take the car a quarter of a mile to the park where there's a beach (home base). You're able to sail on and off the beach all day. Kinda the perfect setup for a day sailer. If once you leave the lauch ramp there's no real handy place to tie up and hang out with the picnic basket, etc. then it can almost feel like you're "stranded" out there on the lake after a short while. Hot sun...I gotta pee...I'm hungry...my tummy feels funny...and so on. I could see sticking with the day sailer idea, but looking around for the ideal "home base" setup somewhere. IMHO it makes all the difference in enjoyment.
The south shore tends to get really brezzy everyday BUT heckscher state park is a great ramp and then you can go over to the small boat sailing area and beach (it is a bit hard to launch at the small boat area) I am not sure were you live on the island BUT be aware the ramps that are NOT NY state like heckscher state park are town ONLY Port jeff harbor is very nice but there is a lot of boat traffic going in and out if you launch there and get back into Conscience Bay you will have much less power boat traffic to deal with
Location.. Thanks for the replys... I live in Setauket (town of brookhaven) so i would probably use the StonyBrook, and Port Jeff ramps for the north shore and Corey Creek (Bluepoint) for the south shore..
Hi Rob, I agree with the previous posts. For a 16' boat its nice, but for the family it could be tight on space. Also $2,700 is high. I picked up a 14' Tanzer this summer from a friend and it is a great little boat and a nice learning tool. But with a smaller boat you don't want to be on it for more than a few hours at a time. I sail it with my brother and 2 adults is comfy. The 16' has a bit more room, but not enough. Look around, craigslist is a good one to keep an eye on. For $2,500, you'd be surprised what you can get. I would look for something like a 19 O'day mariner or any O'day around 19 feet. They have a bigger cockpit and some have a decent cabin. Also the 22 Catalinas are everywhere and have better amenities and a place for the wife to use the head! Here is an 18' O'day, more cockpit not really a cabin but at least somewhere to store your gear. 17' O'Day Day Sailer II sailboat, PRICE JUST REDUCED Here is the O'day 192 a nice little trailerable boat with accomodations below for 2 and a porta pottie. Asking $4100... but they're out there for less. 19' O'Day Model 192 Sailboat, Trailer& Motor Happy hunting. Now is the time to grab a boat, as some people just want to be rid of them and not have to store them over the winter. Keep us posted on any other boats you find!
Ippa2 said: Also the 22 Catalinas are everywhere and have better amenities and a place for the wife to use the head! Click to expand...
for the area where you will be sailing - i'm across the pond in Fairfield, CT - i would opt for a Tanzer 22. I owned one for a few years and is a great first boat - trailerable - and solid as a rock - especially if you have young kids.
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The ISLANDS 17 is most likely a 'splashed' copy of the TANZER 16 with a reverse transom giving it a slightly longer waterline length. Those who have seen both boats have all commented on the striking similarity, especially in the case of earlier boats by Ocean Yachts. The later version, built by Sumner, (also called SUMNER ISLANDS 17), has a ...
Founded by Johann Tanzer, Tanzer Industries Ltd. was one of the largest sailboat manufacturer in Canada for more than 20 years. The Tanzer line ranged from 16 to 35 feet. The most successful model was the TANZER 22 with more than 2200 built. But other models including the 26 were also built in large numbers. In it's heyday Tanzer built boats on both coasts of the U.S., but the factory at ...
Overview. Founded by Johann Tanzer, Tanzer Industries Ltd. was one of the largest sailboat manufacturer in Canada for more than 20 years. The Tanzer line ranged from 16 to 35 feet. The most successful model was the TANZER 22 with more than 2200 built. But other models including the 26 were also built in large numbers.
Islands 17 is a 16′ 9″ / 5.1 m monohull sailboat designed by Johann Tanzer and built by Ocean Yachts / Sumner Boat Co. (USA) starting in 1972. ... The ISLANDS 17 is most likely a 'splashed' copy of the TANZER 16 with a reverse transom giving it a slightly longer waterline length. Those who have seen both boats have all commented on the ...
The Tanzer is a fairly heavily built boat with a fixed keel and a relatively small cabin for their size, however they do have a decent sized V-birth, dinette, and sink, headroom is quite low. ... The Siren 17 is a trailerable swing keel boat with positive bouyancy and a very small cuddy, with only room to lie down in.
A Tanzer 16 can be rigged and on the water in 30-45 minutes. Since this is a One-Design Class, the specifications and measurements are tightly controlled. The goal is to promote family sailing and racing, eliminating the need for costly equipment. The Tanzer 16 Class Association is an active, tight knit group that is always looking to expand.
The Islands 17 is a 16.75ft fractional sloop designed by Johann Tanzer and built in fiberglass since 1972. The Islands 17 is an ultralight sailboat which is a very high performer. It is stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a racing boat.
The T-22 displaces 2,900 pounds (3,100 for the keel/centerboard version). That's heavy, even by 1970's standards. The Catalina 22, a contemporary of the T-22, weighs 2,150 pounds. The more modern J/22 is just 1,790 pounds (and she's hardly the lightest racer/cruiser available in this size range.)
The company was founded by Johann Tanzer in 1966 and went bankrupt in May 1986. Johann Tanzer designed many of the boats his company sold. [2] [3] During the period the company was in business it became one of the largest sailboat manufacturers in Canada. The most produced boat was the Tanzer 22 with 2,271 built.
The Tanzer 16 is a Canadian sailboat, that was designed by Johann Tanzer and first built in 1963. The design is out of production. [1] [2] [3] [4]Derived from the similar 1963 Constellation 16, the Tanzer 16 design was developed into the Overnighter 16 in 1964, by the addition of a cuddy cabin. [1] [3] [5] [6]
6.17 ft / 1.88 m: Displacement: 450.00 lb / 204 kg: Max Draft: 2.75 ft / 0.84 m ... The class association aquired the original tooling for the TANZER 16 when Tanzer Industries closed in 1986. ... Like the LWL, it will vary with the weights of fuel, water, stores and equipment. A boat's actual draft is usually somewhat more than the original ...
Tanzer 16 Specifications ARTICLE S-1: PURPOSE, ONE-DESIGN PRINCIPLE ... The Boat's Official Number: ... 17' 3" Length of Foot: 13' 0" Length of Long Diagonal: 19' 0" Upper girth: 13' 0" Maximum girth: 14' 0" ARTICLE S-8: SAIL MEASUREMENT DIAGRAMS. The diagrams are included to aid in the measurement of sails. If a discrepancy or ambiguity exists ...
Tanzer preowned sailboats for sale by owner. Tanzer used sailboats for sale by owner. Home. Register & Post. View All Sailboats. Search. ... Sailboat Added 17-Sep-2019 More Details: Tanzer Sailboat: Length: 22' Beam: 8' Draft: 4' Year: 1974: Type: racer/cruiser: Hull: fiberglass monohull:
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For a 16' boat its nice, but for the family it could be tight on space. Also $2,700 is high. I picked up a 14' Tanzer this summer from a friend and it is a great little boat and a nice learning tool. But with a smaller boat you don't want to be on it for more than a few hours at a time.
1977 16' Tanzer 16 foot sailboat for sale in Hermann Missouri
This 1983 Tanzer 10.5 offers distinctive styling and innovative engineering. The Tanzer 10.5 looks very much like a sleek sailboat. She is not your average motorsailer but a swift, comfortable aft-cabin cruising yacht. Fresh water boat, well taken care of and loved motor sailer with both interior and exterior steering stations.
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1978 Tanzer 22. This is the fin keel version. Great sailing… look up reviews. ... Posted 2024-09-05 13:17 Contact Information: print. Tanzer 22 Sailboat - $4,200 (Sequim) ‹ image 1 of 4 › google map ...
Tanzer Industries Ltd. (CAN) Designer: Joubert/Nivelt: Sailboat Calculations Definitions ... 17.93: Est. Forestay Length: 40.09 ft / 12.22 m: Mast Height from DWL: ... Like the LWL, it will vary with the weights of fuel, water, stores and equipment. A boat's actual draft is usually somewhat more than the original designed or advertised draft ...
3.83 ft / 1.17 m: Construction: FG: First Built: 1974: Last Built: 1985 # Built: 960: Builder: Tanzer Industries Ltd. (CAN) Designer: Johann Tanzer: Sailboat Calculations ... Like the LWL, it will vary with the weights of fuel, water, stores and equipment. A boat's actual draft is usually somewhat more than the original designed or advertised ...