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The S2 11.0 Sailboat
The S2 11.0 is a series of American cruising sailboats that were designed by Arthur Edmunds and built by S2 Yachts, a company founded by Leon Slikkers, a former Chris Craft employee who started his own boatbuilding business in 1973.
Published Specification for the S2 11.0C
Underwater Profile: Fin keel with skeg-hung rudder
Hull Material: GRP (Fiberglass)
Length Overall: 36'0" (11.00m)
Waterline Length: 28'3" (8.6m)
Beam: 11'11" (3.6m)
Draft: 5'6" (1.7m) deep draft version; 4'6" (1.4m) shoal draft version
Rig Type: Masthead Sloop
Displacement: 15,000lb (6,804kg)
Designer: Arthur Edmunds
Builder: S2 Yachts (USA)
Year First Built: 1980
Year Last Built: 1987
Number Built: 66
Published Design Ratios for the S2 11.0C
1. Sail Area/Displacement Ratio: 15.8
2. Ballast/Displacement Ratio: 37.5
3. Displacement/Length Ratio: 317
4. Comfort Ratio: 29.9
5. Capsize Screening Formula: 1.9
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Summary Analysis of the Design Ratios for the S2 11.0C
1. A Sail Area/Displacement Ratio of 15.8 suggests that the S2 11.0C will need a stiff breeze to get her going. In light conditions, unless you've got plenty of time on your hands, motor-sailing may be the way to go.
2. A Ballast/Displacement Ratio of 37.5 means that unless the bulk of the ballast is concentrated in a bulb at the foot of her keel, the S2 11.0C will have a tendency to heel excessively in a gust, and she'll need to be reefed early to keep her sailing upright in a moderate breeze.
3. A Displacement/Length Ratio of 317, tells us the S2 11.0C is clearly a heavy displacement cruising boat. You can load her down with all your cruising gear and equipment and it will hardly affect her waterline. Not an ideal choice for coastal sailing, but she'll come into her own on an offshore passage in testing conditions.
4. Ted Brewer's Comfort Ratio of 29.9 suggests that crew comfort of a S2 11.0C in a seaway is similar to what you would associate with the motion of a moderate bluewater cruising boat - a predictable and acceptable motion for most seasoned sailors.
5. The Capsize Screening Formula (CSF) of 1.9 tells us that a S2 11.0C would be a safer choice of sailboat for an ocean passage than one with a CSF of more than 2.0.
Any Questions?
Is the S2 11.0 still in production and, if not, when did production end and how many of these sailboats were built?
No, the S2 11.0 is not in production anymore. Production ended in 1987, after 10 years of manufacturing. A total of 222 boats were built, including 156 aft-cockpit models (11.0 A) and 66 centre-cockpit models (11.0 C).
What is the history of the builders of the S2 11.0 and is the company still in business?
The builders of the S2 11.0 are S2 Yachts, a company founded by Leon Slikkers in Holland, Michigan, in 1973. Slikkers had previously worked for Chris Craft and had also established his own powerboat company, Slickcraft, which he sold to AMF in the early 1970s. Slikkers started S2 Yachts to build sailboats, initially focusing on trailerable models, then expanding to larger cruising auxiliaries and high-performance racers.
The S2 11.0 was part of the second wave of cruising sailboats that Slikkers developed in the late 1970s. In the early 1980s, Slikkers returned to building powerboats under the Tiara and Pursuit brands, and stopped producing sailboats in 1986. The company is still in business today as Tiara Yachts, with Leon's sons David and Bob at the helm, and Leon still involved as an active founder.
What is the S2 11.0 like to sail?
The S2 11.0 is a well-balanced and responsive sailboat that performs well in light to moderate winds and seas. The boat has a moderate displacement of around 15,000 pounds and a hull speed of around 7 knots. The boat has a good turn of speed on all points of sail, especially on a reach or a run, where it can easily achieve speeds over 6 knots. The boat is also easy to steer and tack, thanks to its spade rudder and fin keel. The boat can handle heavier winds and waves, but may need to reef early and reduce sail area to maintain control and comfort. The boat has a comfortable motion and a dry ride, with minimal heeling and hobby-horsing. The boat is also well-equipped for cruising, with a reliable diesel engine, a large fuel tank, and a spacious cockpit and cabin.
What is the average cost of a secondhand S2 11.0?
The average cost of a secondhand S2 11.0 depends on the year, condition, equipment, and location of the boat. According to the BUC Used Boat Price Guide, a 1981 model S2 11.0 (in both centre and aft-cockpit versions) has a retail value range today between $48,000 and $52,000 (Northeast and Mid-Atlantic region).
What other sailboats have been created by the designer of the S2 11.0?
The designer of the S2 11.0 is Arthur Edmunds, a naval architect who worked for S2 Yachts from 1977 to 1986. Edmunds designed several other sailboats for S2 Yachts, including the S2 8.0 (a trailerable cruiser), the S2 9.1 (a performance racer-cruiser), the S2 10.3 (a cruising sloop), and the S2 12.9 (a centre-cockpit cruiser). Edmunds also designed sailboats for other companies, such as Hunter Marine, Endeavour Yachts, and Gulfstar Yachts. Some of his notable designs are the Hunter 34, the Endeavour 37, and the Gulfstar 50.
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S2 Yachts were built in Holland, Michigan from 1974 thru 1989. Known for good build quality and sailing characteristics. ALOHA has been loved and updated by the seller since 2006. Set-up for short handed sailing and equipped for comfortable cruising - ALOHA will not disappoint.
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- Less than 1000 hours on the 2009 rebuilt Volvo diesel
- Super Sailmakers 135 Head Sail, (2016)
- North Sails Main Sail, (2016)
- Mast, Pulled, Inspected & Painted (2010)
- Sta-Lok Standing Rigging by Andrew Wall
- LED Lighting - Interior, Steaming and Deck
- AIR Breeze Wind Generator
- Solar Panel, Siemens 75 Watt
- Toilet, Raritan LECTRA/SAN MC
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Specifications
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- L.O.A.: 36' 00" / 10.97m
- D.W.L.: 28' 3" / 8.62m
- Beam: 11' 11" / 3.38m
- Draft: 5' 5" / 1.68m
- Bridge Clearance: 49' 00" / 14.94m
- Displacement: 15000 lbs./ 6804 kgs.
- Ballast: 6000 lbs. / 2722 kgs. (Lead)
- Keel: Fin w/Skeg Rudder
- Interior Headroom: 6' 3" / 1.8m
- Fuel: 50 gals. / 189 ltrs. Aluminum
- Fresh Water: 80 gals. / 303 ltrs. Aluminum
- Holding - (Was removed, but can be reinstalled) NO NEED On-Board Waste Treatment Raritan LECTRA/SAN MC Exceeds USCG Type I requirements and was granted Type I label certification
Accommodations
Upon entering ALOHA via the companionway the S2 timeless quality combined with pride of ownership is immediately evident. To port is the fully appointed, U-shaped galley with gimballed 2 burner range/oven, spacious top loading refrigeration and double stainless sink. Across to Starboard is the aft quarter berth which can easily sleep two. Includes teak shelf outboard, storage under and port light. The fold-down navigation table is forward of the aft quarter berth. Forward of the Nav Station and galley is built-in seating which can be used as a single berth. Along the stbd side are teak cabinets, bookshelves and storage under the settee. Across to the port side is a U-shaped settee with table. The salon table folds down to become a double berth. Forward on the stbd side is the head with vanity, shower and Raritan LECTRA/SAN MC toilet - no need for a holding tank . The forward cabin has a V-berth, storage drawers under and hanging locker. The classic teak and holly cabin sole and teak joinery makes the interior feel warm and inviting.
Interior Details
- R everse Cycle A/C, Marine Air - 16,000 BTU
- Interior Upholstery Replaced in 2007
- LED Lighting
- Teak and Holly Sole - Good Condition
- U-shaped design w/Formica surfaces, teak sea rails on all edges.
- Adler Barbour Refrigeration, Top Load, 12 Volt
- Gimballed two burner Alcohol Origo Stove & Oven
- Double s/s sink w/hot and cold pressure water tap, manual pump
- Upper & Lower Storage Cabinets
The head compartment includes a shower fully enclosed by a wrap-around curtain on an overhead track. Raritan LECTRA/SAN MC toilet eliminates hose and tank oder, plus no more pump-out! Mirror, overhead hatch, opening port contoured teak vanity and convenient storage areas.
Electronics & Navigation
- Raymarine Autohelm ST6000 Wheel Autopilot
- Datamarine Wind Instruments
- Datamarine Depth
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- Richie Magnetic Compass at Helm & Nav Station
- VHF, ICOM, Model IC-M422
- Stereo, Jensen
- Marine Interior & Exterior Speakers
- Diesel, 35 H.P., Volvo MD17C, Less than 1000 hours on rebuild .
- 3 blade fixed propeller
- Racor Fuel/Water Separator
- Sound insulated engine compartment w/access from front and sides.
- Spares include, belts, hoses, heat exchanger, alternator
Electric & Plumbing
- Four (4) 6 Volt Golf Cart Batteries for Start & House (2017)
- Battery Charger, ProMariner ProSport12
- Air Breeze Marine Wind Generator
- Solar Panel, 75 Watt
- A/C, D/C Electrical Panel
- 30 Amp Shore Power Cord
- 12V LED Lighting Fixtures
- Water Heater, (Runs off the diesel or 110v)
- Pressure water system with hot and cold water tap in galley and head.
- Manual water pump in galley
- Electric bilge pump w/auto switch (2015)
- Manual bilge pump (2016)
Sails, Rigging & Hardware
- Aluminum Mast, Pulled, Inspected & Painted (2010)
- Super Sails 135% Roller Furling Head Sail (2016)
- North Sails Main, (2016)
- Furler, Harken (2010)
- Standing Rigging - Replaced by Andrew Wall (2007)
- Running Rigging (2006) Good Condition
- Winches, Lewmar 44 ST (2), Barient 8P (1), Lewmar 16 (1), Lewmar 30 ST (1)
- Whisker pole
- Mainsail cover
- Winch handles
- Dodger & Bimini
- Wheel Steering
- Double lifelines w/quick release hooks
- Welded s/s double bow rail & stem rail, stanchions.
- Swim ladder
- Dinghy Davits
- RIB Dinghy w/Suzuki 6 hp (2012)
Anchoring & Safety
- Windlass - Manual
- Fortress 45 lb Anchor w/Chain & Nylon Rode
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ALOHA is in good condition and ready for a new owner to leave the dock bound for adventure. Spacious and an excellent choice for a coastal cruiser. ALOHA is a great choice for a budget/quality minded buyer.
- Less than 1000 hours on the rebuilt Volvo diesel
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S2 11.0 C is a 35 ′ 11 ″ / 11 m monohull sailboat designed by Arthur Edmunds and built by S2 Yachts between 1980 and 1987.
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The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
Classic hull speed formula:
Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
Sail Area / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.
SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
- SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
- D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
Displacement / Length Ratio
A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
Comfort Ratio
This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening Formula
This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.
CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
C=Center Cockpit model. S2 11.0 A is aft cockpit version.
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Hello again! Well, after spending a month cruising the San Juan Islands, Tresa and I have decided that we're ready to spend the rest of our lives on a boat. I've posted a few threads with photos of my refitting including modifying an anchor locker, constructing a bow roller and adding a windlass for our 25# Mantus... GREAT anchor BTW! after several days spinning around, we got hit with 30+ knots and stayed put while others around us were drifting! So we "decided" on an S2 9.2 center cockpit and found an owner in Portland Oregon who graciously invited us for a tour (We live in Medford Oregon, 250 miles from any coast.) Amazing what the differences can be between listing photos and actually being aboard!!!:frown We fell in love with the layout below, but our tour was spent ducking our heads to "crawl" to the aft cabin which barely had enough room to sit up in the berth! After talking with Tresa, we both decided that the S2 11 (36') Center Cockpit was our boat... Especially after watching a YouTube video tour where the 6' tall owner filmed himself inside for size reference! While we could barely sit up in the berth of the 9.2, we watched him walk around the aft cabin with headroom to spare! So, not wanting to be surprised again, we're searching for an owner of an S2 11 (36') Center Cockpit in hopes of being invited to take a tour below. (Note: S2 also makes a 35' version that we've seen advertised as the S2 11... This is NOT the same boat! The 35' has a balsa cored hull which I do not want to deal with in any way. We're planning to take a trip to Los Angeles to escape the snow between Christmas and new years and hoping to find an owner of an S2 11 (36') Center Cockpit that would be gracious enough to give Tresa and I a tour of their boat. (We'd be willing to drive between Ventura, Long Beach, marina del Rey and even San Diego.) Know of anyone? Thank you! Best, Richard & Tresa
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Within a wide field of well-designed and competitive racer/cruisers of the 1970s, the S2 9.2 stands out, mainly because it wears its age very well. Without a scoop transom and boarding steps or skinny portlights below the sheer, it still looks modern. The flat sheer, sloping deckhouse, almost-flush Lexan forward hatch, hinged anchor lid, and tinted deadlights are familiar features on boats built three decades later. The carefully detailed teak handrails set on molded fiberglass spacers are unobtrusive while emphasizing the hull’s refined shape and unified design. Nothing is exaggerated in the interest of the fashions of the day or to suit a rating rule.
Powerboat builder Leon R. Slikkers founded S2 Yachts in 1974 and commissioned Arthur Edmonds, designer of the Allied Princess 36 and Mistress 39, to design the S2 9.2A (for its aft cockpit) and the S2 9.2C (for its center cockpit). Over 700 A and C models were sold. Both versions have the same hull, fin keel, partially balanced skeg-hung rudder, and masthead sloop rig. The single-spreader aluminum mast, painted black (an S2 trademark) is stepped on deck over a compression post that’s built into the main bulkhead.
The hull is solid, hand-laid fiberglass. It has an inward-turning flange at the sheer to which the balsa-cored deck is bolted through an extruded aluminum toerail. There’s no molded interior liner. Bulkheads and furniture are tabbed to the hull, which contributes to its structural stiffness. Two tons of lead ballast is encapsulated in a sealed keel cavity. Well-cared-for boats show little wear and tear after three decades of hard sailing, and, owners agree, the gelcoat is generally free of stress cracks even where moldings take tight bends.
The T-shaped cockpit is comfortable and workmanlike. The starboard seat opens to general storage and access to the stuffing box and engine controls. Additional storage is located under the helmsman’s seat in twin lazarettes.
Everything on deck is carefully laid out. The mainsail is sheeted abaft the 28-inch wheel, where it’s out of the way but in reach of the helmsman. The 8-inch stern cleats are mounted on anti-chafing pads and close to hand. Engine controls are similarly convenient to the helm. Early boats had Atomic 4s, but a variety of diesel engines were fitted after 1978.
The engine box provides a wide first step down to the cabin. A small corner galley to starboard of the companionway contains a sink, icebox, and stove. Opposite is a quarter berth and navigation space with a folding seat and table. Headroom is 6 feet 3 inches aft and drops gradually to about 5 feet 10 inches toward the forward cabin.
The saloon table and settee convert to a double berth and, together with a 6-foot-6-inch settee opposite, make a comfortable eating, lounging, and sleeping area. A double berth is located forward of the wardrobe and head area. Generous use of teak, both solid and ply, contributes to a sense of quality throughout the boat, but the polypropylene carpeting used to line the hull ages unattractively.
Sailing the S2 9.2 is a treat. In 15 to 17 knots, it heels sharply under the mainsail and 150-percent genoa before settling in to make 5 or 6 knots upwind. Weather helm is noticeable in stronger gusts, but the boat is generally well balanced and always manageable, even in lumpy seas. All in all, the S2 9.2 is a well-designed, tough, and able 30-footer with good performance for racing or cruising.
Architect Richard Smith and his wife, Beth, sail their Ericson Cruising 31, Kuma, in the Pacific Northwest.
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A roomy, well-built middle-of-the-road cruiser with both aft and center cockpit versions.
The history of S2 Yachts is in many ways a parable for the modern fiberglass sailboat industry. Begun in 1974 by an experienced fiberglass builder, the company grew rapidly, building first some unattractive “two-story” cruisers, followed by a series of conventional cruiser-racers in the late ’70s and early ’80s, then a successful fleet of race-oriented cruisers in the mid ’80s. Finally, as sailboat sales took a nosedive in the late ’80s, the company converted its entire production to powerboats.
In late 1989, the company was approached by the class association of its popular 26′ racer, the S2 7.9. Would the company be willing to do a small run of 7.9s for those serious racers who wanted to replace their seven-to nine-year-old boats? The company thought it over and said, yes—provided they could be guaranteed 10 orders.
As we write this, the class association and S2 dealers around the country have been unable to come up with the 10 orders, and the company has cancelled the offering, perhaps the end of sailboat building by this prosperous company, and perhaps also an unfortunate commentary on the sailboat industry.
During its heyday, S2 developed a strong reputation for good quality boats. The company was founded by Leon Slikkers after he had sold his powerboat company, Slickcraft. As part of the sales agreement, he was not to make powerboats for a period of time, but there was no restraint on sailboat building. So he built a new plant which was, at the time, a model for production-line efficiency. Among other things, the hulls were laid up in an enclosed, climate-controlled room, and they remained in molds until most of the interior was installed to ensure that there was as little deformation of the basic molding as possible.
In the late 1970s, S2 did start building powerboats again, and soon established its Tiara line at the top end of the market. As evidence of Slikkers’ insight into the business (as well as a bit of luck, perhaps), when the conglomerate that owned Slickcraft began to see declining sales in the early ’80s, S2 was able to buy Slickcraft back at a fraction of its original sale price. And of course, S2 enjoyed the boom in powerboat buying which accompanied the decline in sailboat sales during the mid and late ’80s.
From the start, Slikkers also assembled an experienced crew of builders and sellers from the local area. At the time, Holland, Michigan, was the home of Chris Craft as well as Slickcraft and several other smaller powerboat builders.
The company continues today with a strong crew, managed primarily by Slikkers’ son, David, and other family members. The company personnel helped establish a reputation for good relationships with S2 owners, a reputation which continues, even though the company is no longer in the sailboat business.
In preparing this story, we talked with a number of S2 9.2 owners who reported that they are still able to get information, advice, and some parts and equipment from the company.
The Boat and Builder
As its nomenclature suggests, S2 Yachts was one of those few American companies willing to commit to the metric system when the government said it would be a good thing to do. The 9.2 stands for 9.2 meters, as with the company’s other boats (7.3, 7.9, 10.3, etc.). S2 stuck with the classification for a long time, only advertising the 9.2 as the S2 30 after it had been in production for years (not to be confused with the later S2 30 designed by Graham & Schlageter).
The boat overall is 29′ 11″, the most common length of 30-footers in those days when one of the popular racing rules—the Midget Ocean Racing Club (MORC)—required boats to be “under 30 feet.” The boat was built in two configurations, from 1977 to 1987. The 9.2C was a center-cockpit version, and the last one built was hull number 427. The 9.2A was the aft-cockpit version, and the last one built was hull number 520.
From talking to the company, it is unclear whether the hull numbers represent the actual number of boats built. In the 70s, it was not unusual for companies as part of their marketing strategy, to start a production run with hull number 10, or even hull number 100, so that a model would appear to be more popular or successful than it actually was. The people currently at S2 simply didn’t know if that had been done, but we suspect the total of 947 hull numbers is more than the actual number of S2 9.2s built. Nonetheless, the 9.2 had a successful run.
The 9.2 was designed by Arthur Edmunds, who was S2’s “in-house” designer. Beginning in 1981, S2 built a number of racing-oriented cruisers designed by the Chicago naval architects Scott Graham and Eric Schlageter, but all of the earlier cruising boats were done by Edmunds. Edmunds also contributed engineering and design detail to Graham & Schlageter’s hull designs.
We would describe the 9.2 design—and all of Edmunds’ S2s—as moderate and conventionally modern. The hull has short overhangs, a relatively flat sheer, a long fin keel, and spade rudder. The boats are reasonably attractive, and the aft-cockpit model has pleasing proportions. The center-cockpit model has a high, boxy superstructure whose profile is relieved by good contour moldings of the deckhouse, cockpit, and aft cabin.
One advantage of the conventional looks of the 9.2 is that it is not likely to go out of fashion—a plus for the boat holding its value. Though the rigs were identical on all versions, shallow-draft keels were a popular option; these reduced the draft from 4′ 11″ to 3′ 11″. The deeper keel doesn’t seem excessive for most waters and is our choice. The lead ballast is internal. S2 did a good job of embedding and sealing the lead in the keel cavity, so leaking should be minimal even in a hard grounding.
The hull is a conservative hand-laid laminate, and the deck is balsa-cored. S2 used a conventional inward-turning flange to attach the deck, with an aluminum toerail for protecting the joint. S2 is known for good glass work, particularly gelcoats, and almost all the used 9.2s that we have seen still are cosmetically good or recoverable with a good rubbing out.
Sailing Performance
‘Adequate’ would be a good way to describe the sailing performance of the 9.2. The boat came with a deck-stepped Kenyon spar and North sails as standard, later with Hall or Offshore spars. The rigging and other sailing hardware was good enough in quality that little re-rigging or upgrading is likely to be needed.
The used 9.2 we examined thoroughly, for example, had internal halyards, reef lines and outhaul, a good Harken mainsheet traveler, Lewmar #8 halyard winches, and two-speed Lewmar #30s for the jib sheets. On the down-side, every equipment list of used S2s we looked at listed the original North sails, with an occasional newer furling genoa. One disadvantage of a late model boat with good gear is that the owner is less likely to upgrade before he sells it, so the second owner probably will be facing the purchase of new sails.
When we sailed a shoal-draft 9.2, our initial reaction was surprise at its tenderness. Other owners in our survey agree that the shoal-draft model heels fairly easily, and a number thought that even the deeper draft model was tender. Several reported that you need to reduce sail fairly early to keep the boat on its feet and sailing well.
The boat sails reasonably well. The one we were on, however, would not go to weather decently—a combination of the shoal draft and a well-worn suit of sails. On other points, the boat was respectable. Close and broad reaching, it moved very well and was just a bit sluggish running.
She’s not a fast boat by contemporary standards. In most areas, the 9.2 carries a PHRF rating of 180 seconds per mile (six seconds slower for the shoalkeel), which is six seconds per mile slower than a Pearson 30 and 12 to 15 seconds slower than the popular Catalina 30 with a tall rig. In contrast, the 9.2’s racing-oriented sister, the S2 9.1, a 30-footer, rates 50 seconds per mile faster.
On the plus side, the boat is easy to sail, with a good balance between main and jib sail area. The running rigging and deck hardware is well set up. Oddly, not one equipment list for used 9.2s that we looked at had a spinnaker or spinnaker gear, an indication that the boat is rarely raced. However, if someone is interested in an occasional club race, the boat should sail up to its rating, assuming the sails are good and the boat well handled.
The deck is well laid out, though the walkways are a bit narrow for getting forward, and there’s a considerable step up into the center cockpit. Details of the deck—anchor well, bow fittings, cleats, halyard runs, and so forth—are well executed.
Performance Under Power
A few of the 1977/1978 boats were sold with an Atomic 4 gas engine. After 1979, diesels were installed. Through 1984, the engines were 12-hp or 15-hp Yanmars, or 12-hp Volvos. In 1985, a Yanmar 23 was optional.
The Atomic 4 was a good engine for the boat, as was the Yanmar 23. However, a number of owners report that the boat is underpowered with the Yanmar 12 and 15, and the Volvo 12. For a 10,000 pound boat, 12 to 15 hp would be adequate by traditional standards, but many sailors seem to want a little more these days. The Yanmar 15 in the boat we sailed had no trouble pushing the boat in calm waters, but the owner did say that the boat couldn’t buck any kind of head sea. For some, the optional Yanmar 23 will make the later models more desirable.
In the center-cockpit model, many owners complained about the inaccessibility of one side of the engine and the difficulty of getting at the dipstick, but otherwise the engine was serviceable. A few boats were apparently sold with raw-water cooling rather than a heat exchanger. We’d be cautious about one of the older boats with raw-water cooling unless it had been kept exclusively in fresh water.
The interior was undoubtedly the strong selling point of the boat. For the most part, the belowdecks finish is well done, and there’s about as much usable room below as you could get without making the hull significantly larger.
S2 was one of the first sailboat builders to use fabric as a hull liner, and it became almost a trademark of S2 interiors. The fabric is a neutral-colored polypropylene, treated to be mildew resistant. When we first saw the fabric, we were skeptical, wondering how it would hold up to saltwater soakings. But having owned a smaller S2 for five years, we finally became converts; in fact, in refitting our current boat, we used the fabric extensively, rather than replacing aged vinyl and wood veneer ceilings. The fabric is contact-cemented to the hull, and it holds up amazingly well, absorbing virtually no water. It is quite resistant to mildew and stains. The new owner of an S2 will want to find a good, compact wet/dry vacuum cleaner, which is the required maintenance equipment for the fabric.
The rest of the interior has teak veneer plywood, Formica, and solid teak trim, and the workmanship is good. Layouts changed little throughout the production of the boats. The aft-cockpit model is conventional, with a V-berth that is a bit short, a large head and hanging locker, a large dinette/settee with a settee opposite, and an L-shaped galley with a chart area/quarter berth opposite. There’s adequate stowage under the berths and decent outside stowage in the lazarettes.
The center-cockpit model moves the main cabin forward and the head aft, near to and partially underneath the center cockpit. The galley is opposite the head, running lengthwise down the port side of the cabin and partially under the cockpit. The aft-cabin is roomy, with an athwartship double berth and good locker space. The shortcoming of the center cockpit is that there is virtually no outside storage.
Choosing between the center and aft cockpit is largely a matter of personal preference. With children, or two couples cruising, the aft cabin is hard to beat for livability.
Overall, the interiors are well enough designed and executed that little major work or upgrading should be necessary on most used boats. Many people will want to replace the alcohol stoves on earlier models, perhaps add refrigeration (or replace the original Unifridge), and perform the normal long-term maintenance of re-upholstering, but otherwise the interiors should need little major attention.
Conclusions
The S2s were well-built. Whereas other production companies frequently cheapened or upgraded models from year to year to find marketing niches, S2 made boats to sell near the high end of the production boat market, and kept the quality at a consistent level.
The 9.2s have maintained their value about as well as any 30-footer in the current market. Because the only significant advantage of the 1986 model is the larger Yanmar engine and newer equipment, we would gladly take one of the older 9.2s at a lower price, since the necessary upgrades could easily be done (sails, cushions, electronics) and the final cost would still be much lower than the newer boat.
It’s easy to pay too much money for a used boat these days, but S2 owners generally think they have a good product, and they’ll probably be harder to dicker with than many sellers.
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S2 11 sail performance Vs. Islander 36
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I am trying to find out just how well these boats perform under sail. I am deciding if I should get an S2 11A or a Islander 36. The Islander is said to reach 8kts but what about the S2? I know the S2 is one ft wider and looks to be built well but how much performance do you give up for the extra room down below? Anyone with info or opinions an these two, I'd love to hear it.
I don't own either, but faced with the same issue I used PHRF to get a handle on the relative speed of two boats. PHRF lists the base handicap of the I36 as 144 while the base handicap of the S2 11.0 is down as 138. If you want a fast boat go for the S2 10.3, which is 120. Note that the I36 is a proven circumnavigator with a keel stepped mast. I don't know if an 11.0 has been around yet. There is a ton of info at http://www.islander36.org The 11.0 has a ton of space in the center cockpit version. The I37 has a pilothouse, which might be a nice option to have (steer inside with the AC on). Will you live aboard? The I36 draws 6 feet even while the 11.0 draws 5.5 feet. Given the potential to run aground if you head to the islands or spend time in the ICW I don't know if I would want an integral keel. If you ground the 11.0 (racing S2's like the 10.3 are bolt on) you should haul it to make sure you didn't penetrate the keel walls which will waterlog the keel (lead shot/scrap in the molded in keel secured with resin). I'd go for a shoal keel on either were I you. Note that the I36 keels seem a mix of iron and lead. Go for lead if possible. Up here, I'd love either boat, but find the S2 more attractive (not surprisingly).
Thanks for the PHRF info, I am surprised that the S2 should sail faster as it is nearly a foot wider. The S2 is a later design than the Islander, could it be that they were built under different racing rules? I am unfamiliar with what these changes imply in hull shape and performance or when they went into effect. I am guesing the S2 is faster because of the larger sail area. I live in the south FL area so I do indeed want a shool draft and these two boats are the same 4'8". I will mostly be sailing weekends and trips to Bahamas/Keys doing overnighters. How bad of a situation can it be if the encapsulated keel has been damaged ether now or sometime in the past?
Up north it can be a nightmare due to freezing. The whole ballast area (usually the front 75% of the keel with a sump in the aft 25%) can become water-logged. If that freezes (not a problem you will have) it can severely damage the keel. In your case, it could sink the boat if it communicates with the bilge. Best practice is always to examine the keel carefully after any grounding. As long as you can dive on it (no problem in warm weather) and haul or fix it with underwater epoxy (best idea I heard is to create bandage by spreading epoxy on plastic wrap or a plastic bag to ease handling) you should be okay.
I think an integral keel is better than a bolt on type. Better built in my opinion. No keel bolts to worry about. Seems like it would be more expensive to produce an integral keel also.
Barnacle Bill
Speed potential is more sail area, waterline length, lighter vessel, rather than beam, other than the fact that when you heel over the beam will increase waterline length for certain vessels. I believe S-2 is considered to be a better built boat than the Islander, with better fiberglass work, but, as mentioned, the Islander 36 is a very well respected vessel with lots of experience on the water. I have just seen S-2's hold up better with time. A center cockpit boat usually does not sail as well as an aft cockpit boat because of the sail plan difference, more weight and windage. But, they can be more comfortable for cruising and most offer a great fishing platform aft where you do not have to bring fish guts into the living area of your aft cockpit. That's my 2 cents.
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