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OK, since so many people really loved my earlier thread on the Irwin question (just kidding) I thought I would try again. Anyone out there have something to say about a 1979 C&C 34? I think it may be a better boat for us in terms of sailing fast(er) and still having enough room to live aboard and coastal cruising for the summer months. I am not familar with the below decks, are they fairly spacious? I remember C&C's being sort of narrow, though this 34 has an 11' beam. Any words of wisdom would be appreciated. In fact just having ANY response would probably make me feel good. Thanks. Joshua  

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A good friend of mine had an early 80s C&C34. He lived aboard in Connecticut for at least 15 years. It was roomy enough and sailed pretty well. The biggest problem was blisters, lots of big blisters. He did a complete and proper blister job but it failed with blister coming back after one year. It had a cored hull and some of the blisters were all the way to the core. One boat, one situation should not paint them all with a bad brush. But It soured me enough to keep me from looking at earlier C&Cs.  

The 34 was hte first of the third generation C&C's, bringing in cored hulls - and not a very good boat. The core runs close to the keel, one good smack to the bottom of the keel and you can endup with a totally wet core - I sawone back when that dripped for weeks and weeks after being hauled. Boat is also very tender. Looks good and that about it, same for the 29 and the 36. My advice is see if you can find a 35-II, they are built very strong, provide great performance and have a much better down below. The 35-II is a classic for all times, the 34 is a mongrel.  

I just helped deliver one (1981 I think) with owner on a 150-mile trip in 10-25 knots form all directions along the Gulf Coast. I didn't think the boat was overly tender, and did quite well on all points of sail, and was reasonably fast, with no bad habits that I could see. I can't comment on the structural stuff mentioned above, but if that weren't a problem, she seemed like a very nice, fairly fast, cruiser and maybe club/ beercan racer.  

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We took a long hard look at a 1981 C&C 34 during our last boat hunt, liked the layout, the look, and the cockpit. However we had heard of the problems they'd had (such as those SF alludes to) and found some other questionable items in the one we were interested in and in the end let it go. On the one we looked at, I could easily swing any stanchion through about 5 degrees with little force, with corresponding flexing of the hull deck joint. I didn't much like the look of that. From all accounts the biggest issue with this generation of boats for C&C is in fact the coring and therefore each model needs to be thoroughly and completely surveyed with such problems in mind.  

Hmm, OK. Doesn't look like the C&C 34 is such a great boat. I didn't know too much about them, but had thought that C&C had a pretty sturdy reputation, but perhaps that was with another generation. This boat search is difficult. I have gone from an interest in the early (Cherubini designed) Hunter 33, to an Irwin 39 Citation, to the C&C 34, and now none really impress me. There was a Pearson 323 in there for a little while, but I didn't like the forward wheel location in the cockpit. Back to the search? JC  

Check out CS boats. They are a bit better built than C&C's and sail very nicely. They have solid hulls, and although the deck is cored, there is less balsa in it than a lot of other boats. If you don't want to spend as much, then Cal's are well built boats that also sail nicely. Tartans and Bristols are good quality. O'day is another option. Catalina perhaps, if you find one that has been taken care of. Also: YachtWorld.com Boats and Yachts for Sale YachtWorld.com Boats and Yachts for Sale YachtWorld.com Boats and Yachts for Sale YachtWorld.com Boats and Yachts for Sale  

Thanks for the links SM. That is funny that you mention Cal, because that is the only boat I have owned. I had a 1969 Cal 27 for a while, great boat, sailed fast, nice layout down below, and with a kevlar 120 up front she could roll over many other, much more expensive boats. Also funny that you mention Oday, because there is one for sale down in Boston (I am in NH) but I had never thought of Oday as a coastal cruiser. It is an '88 322. I just looked at it (since you mentioned them) and it looks decent. sort of modern, which isn't bad. I read that they have small winches and potential keel boat problems, but not sure. I will look more closely at the links you sent too. Thanks. Josh  

Along with the issues mentioned, like the balsa coring, C&C was always pushing the envelope on composites. The 34 made use of kevlar/fiberglass hybrid composites, nomex, etc., and they don't have the long-term track record in such combinations that more traditional materials/applications have established. It did come in two versions, the 34 and 34R. These boats were noted as being high-pointers and were able to stand up pretty well in a blow. The rudder is very effective. One quirk that is important in slip fees. The 34 is actually 35'6".  

Seabreeze, while your data on the C&C 34(R) is correct, the model the OP refers to is a much different boat, not nearly so high tech but put to market in the late 70s with the advent of extensive coring in the hulls of production boats. It's essentially a blown-up C&C29 from the same era, I believe they first came out in 78 or 79. In 1980 they were updated with smoked lexan windows rather than the previously typical aluminum framed types. This model did indeed suffer from early attempts at new building techniques, but it's not the late 80s version that you refer to.  

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I would disagree with the negative assessments of the 34. The 34 and the 36 both sail well and I would suggest represent a very good value in their price range. I would not disagree that you have to pay very careful attention to the coring issues, however.  

C&C 34 Solid and Fun I have had the pleasure of owning a C&C 34 for the past 5 years. When I bought the boat, I heard all these tales of blisters and wet core decks. The truth is if you get a well-cared for C&C34 of this vintage, you'll own a lovely boat. Of course, the first step is a good survey. The second step is a barrier coat to prevent blisters (if previous owners have not done so). It is a tedious, but very valuble DIY project. As for the boat being tender. I am happy to own a boat that actually is responsive to the wind. A routinely sail my boat single-handed, and with some decent reefing gear and a roller furler, I have never encountered any problems sailing a broad wind range. As for accomodations, I find 2-4 people are pretty comfortable for weekend trips. If you want a liveaboard, don't buy a racer/cruiser, get yourself a nice tub. Very Pleased C&C 34 Owner (1980).  

Faster said: Seabreeze, while your data on the C&C 34(R) is correct, the model the OP refers to is a much different boat, not nearly so high tech but put to market in the late 70s with the advent of extensive coring in the hulls of production boats. It's essentially a blown-up C&C29 from the same era, I believe they first came out in 78 or 79. In 1980 they were updated with smoked lexan windows rather than the previously typical aluminum framed types. This model did indeed suffer from early attempts at new building techniques, but it's not the late 80s version that you refer to. Click to expand...

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My brother has owned a 1979 C&C 34 with a keel/centerboard for the past 14-15 years and I have had the pleasure of using it many times. I think it is a very good boat. It does not have a balsa cored hull. It has a foam cored hull. Yes it had blisters which were taken care of properly and they did not return. There are very few boats of that era that have no blisters. It's not excessively tender and is quite fast. The cabin is adequate for a small family and nicely finished. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a well cared for C&C 34. The 34R is a completely different boat.  

resdog said: My brother has owned a 1979 C&C 34 with a keel/centerboard for the past 14-15 years and I have had the pleasure of using it many times. I think it is a very good boat. It does not have a balsa cored hull. It has a foam cored hull. ...It's not excessively tender and is quite fast. The cabin is adequate for a small family and nicely finished. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a well cared for C&C 34. The 34R is a completely different boat. Click to expand...

C&c 34 Being an owner of a 34 I have to tell you that its a great boat- They cant afford to make boats like the old C&Cs anymore- solid with over sized hardware- blisters smisters...what boat doesnt have them. Ours has none- Like people every boat has its own flaws. We have back filled holes and waterproofed because production boats have inevitable leaks. So do other boats... We are a family of 5 - we sailed for 7 weeks this summer on our 34- we sailed fast, we sailed slow, we ate, we raced a few friends (and always won). We anchored, we docked, we traveled daily with no issues. (well done to our maintenance of the last few years!) They are great boats- with lots to offer- We are repowering ours now so that we can sail her into the sunset for years to come! Have fun sailing! Alex Dragonflys Co Captain  

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Having been aboard half a dozen in the last few months, I can tell you that this is one yacht where condition, and therefore value, vary widely. Some have been raced hard, one I saw had grooves worn 1.5" through the coaming where the jib-sheets passed over to the primaries! Some have been dock-queens, babied and used for family cruising on the odd weekend. Interior is reasonably spacious. The v-berth has enough space to get out of bed and change with the door closed. Salon is good, an interesting feature is the L-shaped settee to starboard that converts to a real double - one of the best I've seen on a vessel of this size, and stays out of the main passage. Quarterberth is good size for one. Engine access is OK. If you like the idea of a diesel, there are plenty out there that have been fitted with Yanmars, etc. The cored hull can be a problem. Of the three that I had seen surveys for, two were in excellent shape, one had a couple of square feet of wet near the prop-shaft exit. Owners report good sailing characteristics. Close-winded. Good control downwind for a fin keel, spade rudder setup. Atomic four provides good power. Good luck with your search!  

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The C&C 34+ Sailboat Specs & Key Performance Indicators

The C&C 34+, a cruiser/racer sailboat, was designed by Robert Ball and built in Canada by C&C (Cuthbertson & Cassian ) Yachts.

A C&C 34+ sailboat beats to windward under full sail

Published Specification for the  C&C 34+

Underwater Configuration:  Wing keel and spade rudder

Hull Material:  GRP (Fibreglass)

Length Overall:  35'6" (10.8m)

Waterline Length:  30'10" (9.4m)

Beam:  11'7" (3.5m)

Draft:  5'0" (1.5m)

Rig Type:  Masthead sloop

Displacement:  12,000lb (5,443kg)

Ballast:  Lead

Designer:  Robert Ball

Builder:  C&C Yachts

First Built:  1989

Published Design Ratios for the  C&C 34+

1. Sail Area/Displacement Ratio:  20.5

  • Less than 16 would be considered under-powered;
  • 16 to 20 would indicate reasonably good performance;
  • Over 20 suggests relatively high performance.

2. Ballast/Displacement Ratio:  43.5

  • Under 40: less stiff, less powerful
  • Over 40: stiffer, more powerful

3. Displacement/Length Ratio:  183

  • Under 100: Ultralight
  • 100 to 200: Light
  • 200 to 275: Moderate
  • 275 to 350: Heavy
  • Over 350: Ultraheavy

4. Comfort Ratio:  22.0

  • Under 20 indicates a lightweight racing boat
  • 20 to 30 indicates a coastal cruiser
  • 30 to 40 indicates a moderate offshore cruising boat
  • 40 to 50 indicates a heavy offshore boat
  • Over 50 indicates an extremely heavy offshore boat

5. Capsize Screening Formula:   2.0

  • Under 2.0 (the lower the better): Better suited for ocean passages
  • Over 2.0: Less suited for ocean passages

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Summary Analysis of the Design Ratios for the  C&C 34+

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1. A Sail Area/Displacement Ratio of 20.5 suggests that, in the right hands, the C&C 34+ will have enough performance to leave most other sailboats of similar waterline length in her wake. 

2. A Ballast/Displacement Ratio of 43.5 means that the C&C 34+ will stand up well to her canvas in a blow, helping her to power through the waves.

3. A Displacement/Length Ratio of 183, tells us the C&C 34+ is clearly a light displacement sailboat. If she's loaded with too much heavy cruising gear her performance will suffer dramatically.

4. Ted Brewer's Comfort Ratio of 22.0 suggests that crew comfort of a C&C 34+ in a seaway is similar to what you would associate with the motion of a coastal cruiser with moderate stability, which is not encouraging news for anyone prone to seasickness. 

5. The Capsize Screening Formula of 2.0 tells us that a C&C 34+ would not be the better choice of sailboat for ocean passage-making, owing to the increased risk of capsize in strong winds and heavy seas, when compared to a similar sailboat with a CSF of less than 2.0.

The C&C 34+: A Fast and Fun Cruiser/Racer

Designed by Robert Ball and built by C&C Yachts in Canada, the C&C 34+ is a versatile and attractive performer that can satisfy a wide range of sailing needs. But the C&C 34+ is not just a regular 34-footer. It's actually a modified version of the C&C 34/36, which was introduced in 1989 as a replacement for the older C&C 34. The 34/36 came in two versions: the R (racer) and the DK (deep keel). The R had a lighter displacement, a taller mast, and a deeper fin keel, while the DK had a heavier displacement, a shorter mast, and a shoal draft wing keel.

The 34+ was created by combining the best features of both versions. It has the same hull shape and rig as the R, but with a wing keel that reduces the draft to 5.5 feet. It also has a more spacious and comfortable interior than the R, with more headroom, storage, and amenities. The result is a boat that can sail fast and point high in light to moderate winds, but also offer stability and comfort in heavier conditions.

What are the pros and cons of the C&C 34+?

Like any boat, the C&C 34+ has its strengths and weaknesses. Here are some of the main ones:

  • Performance: The C&C 34+ is a lively and responsive boat that can reach speeds of over 7 knots in favorable winds. It has a well-balanced helm, a powerful sail plan, and a low wetted surface area that make it easy to handle and fun to sail. It can also perform well in club races and regattas, especially in PHRF ratings.
  • Versatility: The C&C 34+ can adapt to different sailing scenarios, from day sailing to coastal cruising to offshore passages. It has enough space and equipment to accommodate up to six people for overnight or longer trips, but it's also not too big or complex to manage single-handedly or with a small crew. It can sail in shallow waters thanks to its wing keel, but it can also handle rough seas thanks to its sturdy construction and seakindly motion.
  • Style: The C&C 34+ has a sleek and elegant appearance that reflects its heritage and quality. It has a low-profile cabin trunk, a reverse transom, and a graceful sheerline that give it a modern and sporty look. It also has a spacious and bright cockpit, with an ergonomic layout and ample seating. The interior is warm and inviting, with teak woodwork, white bulkheads, and blue cushions.
  • Maintenance: The C&C 34+ is not a low-maintenance boat. It requires regular care and attention to keep it in good shape and prevent problems. Some of the common issues that owners have reported include blistering on the hull, corrosion on the keel bolts, leaks around the ports and hatches, cracks on the deck hardware, and wear on the rigging. Some of these issues may be due to age or neglect, but some may also be due to design flaws or poor quality control.
  • Cost: The C&C 34+ is not a cheap boat. It was originally sold for around $100,000 in the early 1990s, which was quite expensive for its size and category at the time. Today, it can still fetch between $50,000 and $80,000 on the used market, depending on its condition and equipment. This may be beyond the budget of some sailors who are looking for a similar boat.
  • Availability: The C&C 34+ is not a common boat. It was only produced for about four years, from 1989 to 1993¹, and only about 100 units were built. This means that finding one for sale may not be easy, especially in some regions or countries. It also means that finding spare parts or service may be challenging or costly.

What are the main features of the C&C 34+?

The C&C 34+ has many features that make it an attractive sailboat for cruising and racing enthusiasts. Here are some of the most notable ones:

Hull and Deck: The C&C 34+ has a fiberglass hull and deck, with a balsa core for stiffness and insulation. The hull is molded in one piece, with a vinylester resin barrier coat to prevent osmosis. The deck is attached to the hull with bolts and adhesive, and has an aluminum toe rail for safety and durability.

The hull has a fine entry, a flat run aft, and a moderate beam, which give it a low drag and a high lift-to-drag ratio. The deck has a flush foredeck, a large anchor locker, and a molded bow sprit for an asymmetric spinnaker. The cockpit has a bridgedeck, a pedestal wheel steering, and a walk-through transom with a swim ladder.

Keel and Rudder: The C&C 34+ has a cast lead wing keel, which provides a low center of gravity and a high righting moment. The keel is bolted to the hull with stainless steel bolts, which are accessible from the bilge.

The rudder is a balanced spade type, which is mounted on a stainless steel stock and supported by two bearings. The rudder has a high aspect ratio and a low wetted surface area, which give it a good control and maneuverability.

Rig and Sails: The C&C 34+ has a masthead sloop rig, which consists of an aluminum mast and boom, stainless steel wire standing rigging, and dacron running rigging. The mast is deck-stepped, with two sets of spreaders and an internal conduit for wiring.

The boom has an internal outhaul and reefing lines, and a rigid vang. The sail inventory includes a fully battened mainsail with two reef points, a 150% genoa with roller furling, and an asymmetric spinnaker with a snuffer. The sail area is 517 square feet for the main and genoa, and 900 square feet for the spinnaker.

Engine and Propulsion: The C&C 34+ has a Yanmar 3GM30F diesel engine, which delivers 27 horsepower at 3600 rpm. The engine is located under the companionway steps, with easy access from three sides. The engine drives a two-blade folding propeller through a saildrive unit. The fuel tank has a capacity of 20 gallons, which gives the boat a range of about 150 nautical miles at 6 knots.

Electrical and Plumbing: The C&C 34+ has a 12-volt DC electrical system, with two batteries, a selector switch, and a breaker panel. The boat also has shore power capability, with an AC outlet, a battery charger, and an inverter. The boat has two water tanks, with a total capacity of 40 gallons. The boat also has a manual bilge pump, an electric bilge pump, and a pressure water system with hot and cold water.

Accommodation and Layout: The C&C 34+ has an open and spacious interior layout, with six berths in three cabins. The forward cabin has a V-berth with storage underneath, a hanging locker, and an overhead hatch. The main cabin has two settees that convert to single berths, a folding table that can seat six people, and several lockers and shelves.

The galley is located on the port side of the main cabin, and has a two-burner stove with oven, a double sink with hot and cold water, a top-loading refrigerator/freezer, and ample counter space and storage.

The navigation station is located on the starboard side of the main cabin, opposite the galley, and has a large chart table with drawers, an instrument panel, and an electrical panel.

The head is located aft of the navigation station, on the starboard side of the companionway steps, and has a marine toilet, a sink with hot and cold water, a shower head with sump pump, and storage cabinets.

The aft cabin is located on the port side of the companionway steps,and has a double berth that extends under the cockpit sole, a hanging locker and an opening port.

The above text was drafted by sailboat-cruising.com using GPT-4 (OpenAI’s large-scale language-generation model) as a research assistant to develop source material; we believe it to be accurate to the best of our knowledge.

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C&C 34 is a 33 ′ 5 ″ / 10.2 m monohull sailboat designed by Robert Ball and built by C&C Yachts starting in 1977.

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Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

  • SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
  • D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
  • LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
  • LOA: Length overall in feet
  • Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

Deep keel: 6.4’/1.95m

Keel/CB version: Draft (BD): 6.90’/2.10m Draft (BU): 4.00’/1.22m

Replaced by a completely new C&C 34/36 in 1989.

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An older Cal 34 can be a good entry-level cruiser for the handyman, but we like the later interior.

Cal 34

Bill Lapworth didn’t invent light-displacement cruiser-racers, but his name is indelibly linked with the type. At 15,000 pounds of displacement on a 30′ waterline, the Cal 40 is still a fairly light boat, especially considering the low-tech materials and techniques available when she was introduced. Lapworth designed a number of smaller sisters to the Cal 40 in the late 1960’s, all looking as alike as peas in a pod.

If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, then Lapworth should have been very flattered at the interest his Cal designs generated, for Frank Butler, now owner of Catalina, designed several successful boats for Coronado that were remarkably similar to Lapworth’s Cals.

Perhaps the most successful of the little sisters to the Cal 40 was the Cal 34. The Cal 34 was in production off and on, and in various configurations, from 1966 until 1979.

Although the hull form of the Cal 34 remained basically unchanged during its production life, enough changes were made in the rig, deck molding, and interior for the boat to have three model designations: Cal 34, Cal 2-34, and Cal 3-34.

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Sailing Performance The Cal 34 was conceived as a true racer-cruiser, and early promotional literature stressed her racing performance. The original rig was a low aspect ratio masthead sloop. With a foot length of 14′ and a hoist of 33.5′, the mainsail was of typical late CCA (Cruising Club of America) Rule proportions. The long boom of the original short rig overhangs the cockpit awkwardly, with the mainsheet traveler just forward of the aft end of the cockpit. According to owners, this makes access to the cockpit lockers a nuisance, as well as squandering cockpit space. The tiller occupies the entire forward half of the cockpit, so that the helmsman sits just aft of the deckhouse, while the sail trimmers sit further aft.

The rig on the 2-34 and the 3-34 is just over 2′ taller and the boom 3′ shorter than the original. These dimensions give the rig much more modern proportions, reducing the size of the mainsail by 40 square feet and increasing the aspect ratio of the main from about 2.5:1 to 3.25:1. With the taller rig, the typical PHRF rating of the boat is six seconds per mile faster.

Most Cal 34 owners we surveyed consider the boat to be about the same speed as similar boats upwind, and somewhat faster downwind. This assessment jibes with the performance of most Lapworth designs, which are at their best off the wind. The boat’s PHRF rating, however, suggests that, on the whole, the boat is actually slower than more modern designs of the same size. The C&C 34, for example, is rated about 25 seconds per mile faster than the Cal 3-34.

According to owners, it takes a good breeze to get the Cal 34 moving. With her large, trapezoidal fin keel, the Cal 34 simply has a lot more wetted surface than more modern fin keel boats, although substantially less wetted surface than a full keel design.

Many owners of the original Cal 34 have shortened the foot of the mainsail to improve the boat’s balance. The taller-rigged boats have inherently better balance, since the center of effort of the entire sail plan is further forward. Boats with the short rig and a shortened mainsail foot are likely to be underpowered in light air.

One advantage of the shorter boom is to get rid of the traveler at the aft end of the cockpit. Instead, the traveler is mounted on the bridgedeck, or over the main companionway. While this location would be awkward for racing a tiller-steered boat, it’s good for cruising, since the helmsman could handle the mainsheet as well as the tiller.

One of the most commonly-seen modifications to earlier boats is the installation of wheel steering. This requires relocating the mainsheet on the longerboom boats, but it frees up the space in the cockpit dramatically. The Cal 34 really has a large cockpit, but the tiller and original mainsheet arrangement wasted a huge amount of space. Wheel steering is standard in the 3-34 version of the boat, built in 1976 and later.

Construction The Cal 34 has a relatively unsophisticated, hand laid-up hull. Owners consider the boat to be above average in strength of hull, deck, and rig. A number of owners report that the main bulkhead tends to delaminate due to leaking chainplates. Since this is potentially a serious structural problem, any Cal 34 should be carefully surveyed for signs of leakage in this area. Be particularly cautious about any boat in which the main bulkhead has been painted out, rather than left varnished: look carefully for water stains around the chainplates.

Other areas to check are the deck around the mast step, and the fiberglass keel molding. Internally ballasted boats such as the Cal 34 frequently suffer damage on the toe of the keel when running aground. The keel molding should not ring hollow when tapped with a mallet, which would indicate a loose ballast casting—a sign that the boat has been run aground hard.

Older Cal boats are not heavily built: their light displacement precludes excess material. Furniture and bulkhead tabbing are relatively light, notoriously so in the old Cal 40. The saying about the Cal 40 is that when the berths pop loose in the forward cabin, it’s time to reduce sail.

Despite fairly light construction, we know of several Cal 34s that have done impressive ocean voyaging. We wouldn’t consider a boat of this age and construction suitable for ocean cruising without a careful survey of all structural components. Lightdisplacement hulls such as that of the Cal 34 get a lot of stiffness from the bonding of furniture to the hull. Keeping it in place is important.

One problem area is the chainplates. Several owners report chainplate failure due to metal fatigue, and one owner found several other partially broken chainplates when he replaced on that had broken.

On the whole, however, the Cal 34 is relatively free of structural defects that would be the result of poor workmanship or choice of materials. The faults you find are more commonly a function of the age of the individual boat. For example, some owners report sloppy rudders due to wear of the fiberglass tube which serves as stuffing box and bearing for the rudder stock—a common aging problem with this type of rudder installation.

Pay particular attention to the condition of the gelcoat, particularly the deck gelcoat. Crazing is very common. Unless it has been painted, the distinctive blue Cal sheerstrake is likely to be badly faded in older boats.

In the late 60’s and early 70’s, many West Coast boats, including Cals, were notorious for mediocre systems installations, particularly wiring and plumbing. If an older Cal 34 has had a lot of electronics added, there’s a good chance that the wiring has been pigtailed onto existing circuits, a poor practice. Older Cal 34s also had gate valves rather than seacocks on through hull fittings. These should be replaced.

Other minor weak points include the lack of backing plates on stanchions, which can cause localized crazing of the deck, and leaking aluminumframed cabin ports.

Owners recommend putting in larger cockpit scuppers. The big cockpit can hold a lot of water, and the two small stock scuppers are inadequate.

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Interior There have been two interior layouts in the boat. The original Cal 34 and the 2-34 have two quarterberths aft, with the galley to starboard and a dinette to port in the main cabin. The later Cal 3-34s have a more modern conventional layout, with galley aft to port, quarterberth and chart table to starboard. The saloon of the last version has a settee to starboard, dinette to port. Both layouts have V-berths in the forward cabin with the head between the main cabin and forward cabin. Head layout is different in the two models.

On the whole, we think the later layout is superior, although the galley is actually larger in the original version. On older boats, most owners use the dining table for chart work, although it would be quite easy to design a slide-away chart table to fit over the head of one of the quarterberths.

The interior finish of the boats changed a lot over the years. The original Cal 34 had a varnished mahogany plywood interior with varnished mahogany trim. Later boats went to the oiled teak cave look of the 1970s.

There is no doubt that the original interior is lighter and brighter than the later teak interior. However, a varnished mahogany interior requires more upkeep than an oiled teak interior, and is harder to restore to good condition if it has been allowed to deteriorate. Mahogany blackens when exposed to salt water, while teak merely bleaches out and can be reclaimed with a little sanding.

There’s a lot more in the way of creature comforts in the 3-34, in keeping with the growing view that cruising should be more than an expensive form of camping out. Water capacity was increased from the marginal 26 gallons of the early boats to a more serviceable 60 gallons, hot and cold pressure water were standard, and a shower was installed.

The interior is a good selling point in any of the three models. For its length overall, the Cal 34—which is really just over 33′ long—has a lot of interior volume. Headroom on centerline in the main cabin is 6′ 2″. The boat easily has as much interior space as older boats 3′ or more longer.

Engine Like most boats built in the late ’60s, the Cal 34 was originally powered by the Atomic Four gas engine. The engine is located under the cockpit, but is reasonably accessible from either of the quarterberths.

The propeller is driven through a V-drive, and some owners report problems with this unit. A thorough mechanical survey is a must when buying a Cal 34.

In the mid-’70s, diesel engines made their appearance in the boat. A variety of diesels have been installed, including Farymann, 25 and 30 horsepower Westerbekes, and the Perkins 4-91. We would not buy a boat with a Farymann diesel, since parts are difficult or impossible to find. Oddly enough, the most desirable engine for the boat may be the old Atomic 4, which many owners report to be still running strong at 15 years of age or more. Parts are readily available, and are likely to be for some time to come. You could also consider replacing the Atomic Four with one of the Universal diesels designed as a drop-in replacement for the engine.

One disadvantage of the new version of the interior is that engine accessibility has been sacrificed. Owners consider access fair to poor in the aft galley interior, fair to good in the double quarterberth version.

One oddity is that many owners report that the boat pulls strongly to starboard under power, requiring a lot of helm for correction, while another owner reports that the boat pulls strongly to port with the same engine!

Buying a Used Boat Early models of the Cal 34 are well over two decades old today. A lot of changes have occurred in the industry in those 25 years, as well as in the expectations we have for medium-sized cruising boats. Certainly a lot of features of the later Cal 34s—the more efficient rig, better sail handling layout, wheel steering, anchor locker, diesel engine, bigger water capacity and other creature comforts, and more useful interior layout—make them more desirable for most uses. Of course, the price of newer boats reflects the improvements.

An older Cal 34 would be a good choice as an entry-level, medium-sized family cruising boat. A lot of the gear on older models will be painfully obsolete. The rigging, sails, and electronics are likely to be old. Unless the boat has been unusually well maintained, the wood cockpit coamings may need replacing, the hull is likely to need painting, and the deck gelcoat will be crazed.

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Blistering has been a relatively minor problem with older Cals, but the hull should obviously be carefully surveyed for high moisture content.

The base price of the Cal 34 in 1969 was $16,800. This was for a stripped boat—the base price didn’t even include lifelines and stanchions.

The next year the base price climbed to $19,277, and it continued to escalate throughout the boat’s production history.

There’s a good chance that an older Cal 34 will give you all the opportunities your heart could ever desire to learn to tinker with fiberglass repairs and the upgrading of systems.

If you’re willing to do this type of stuff yourself, a 20-year-old performance cruiser that you can buy in today’s market for $20,000 or so may be a lot of boat for the money. If you want a lower maintenance boat, stick to a late model Cal 34—but be prepared to pay significantly more.

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Lots of useful info even though I’ve had a Cal 2-34 for 25 years ! Better check those chain plates…

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OLD SAYBROOK — A 34-year-old Westbrook man killed in a boat crash on Labor Day is being remembered as a devoted husband and friend, according to his obituary.

Christopher Hallahan was one of three men who died after a 31-foot open boat with nine passengers struck a jetty and capsized after returning from Block Island at around 9:15 p.m. Officials said Hallahan was found dead along with six others who needed to be transported to the hospital for injuries. Two of the boaters remained missing for days until their bodies were located on Friday.

The obituary said Hallahan married his wife, Brittney, in 2021, and added that she was the "love of his life." It went on to say the two of them were "dreamers" and "inseparable from the start."

"Their support and love of each other was palpable, and something any couple could learn from," the obituary said. "As you read this, please hold space for their dreams that were yet to come."

Hallahan "dedicated his life to his wife and family, his career 'family,' and abundant friends," his obituary said. The obituary reflected on Hallahan's "ability to light up a room with his presence was widely admired."

Hallahan worked at his father's construction business, which operates out of Westbrook and Westerly, R.I, the obituary said. Hallahan loved his job and enjoyed establishing relationships with his customers, according to his obituary.

The obituary said that Hallahan had many hobbies, like fishing and traveling, along with flying after he got his pilot license. It said he often joked about having "too many [hobbies] to keep up with." Hallahan was also an avid Jimmy Buffett fan who was "listening to his island music every moment he could," the obituary said.

A GoFundMe in memory of Hallahan was created on Friday, and has already raised over $100,000 as of Sunday morning. The fundraiser said it hoped to garner funds to help Brittney with funeral expenses.

"Any additional money collected is planned to be donated and eventually used for proper lighting of the Connecticut River break wall so life-changing tragedies like this can be avoided in the future," the fundraiser said.

After a multiday search, the bodies of two other victims were located on Friday, officials said. The victims later identified as 25-year-old Ian Duchemin of Oakdale, and 24-year-old Ryan D. Britagna of Waterford.

Officials said investigators are still working to determine what caused the crash.

Out of the six other victims, the injuries varied from minor to serious injuries, according to officials. They added that the operator of the boat was in critical condition as of Tuesday. There were no updates on the conditions of the victims as of Sunday morning.

A public visitation for Hallahan is scheduled for Monday, Sept. 9 from 4 to 7 p.m. at the Robinson, Wright and Weymer Funeral Home in Centerbrook, according to his obituary. It added that his funeral is scheduled for Tuesday, Sept. 10 starting at 11 a.m. at St. Mark Church on McVeagh Road.

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The identity has been released of a young man killed in a boating accident in Connecticut as authorities continue their search for two missing people.

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The incident occurred in Middlesex County in Old Saybrook on Long Island Sound around 9:15 p.m., Monday, Sept. 2.

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    1980 C&C 34. $22,000. Bainbridge Island, WA 98110 | Private Seller. Request Info. <. 1. >. Find C&C 34 boats for sale near you, including boat prices, photos, and more. Locate C&C boat dealers and find your boat at Boat Trader!

  14. C&C 34 boats for sale

    This 1980 C&C 34' sailboat is the perfect vessel for seasoned sailors and newcomers alike. The owner has purchased a larger boat and so is motivated to sell, pricing Everybody Dance Now to be the best value on the market in the 1970-1990, 30-40 foot range. Performance and Handling Renowned for its excellent sailing performance, the C&C 34 ...

  15. 1978 C&C 34, Kemah Texas

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