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Yamaha 25 Review in Good Old Boat magazine

• Thread starter George
• Start date Apr 18, 2007
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Good Old Boat magazine did a review of my 1977 Yamaha 25 in the upcoming May/June edition. I wrote a side bar on the history of Yamaha sailboats. Like to know your opinion of the article. This is the first review of a Yamaha sailboat I have seen in a looooong time!!! Maybe it will get the word out about these great sailboats. Note to Bob: There is a mistake in the article, as it says I maintain the Yamaha website, and we all know you originated and maintain the website. Will see if I can get that corrected. Take careGeorge  

Don't have one... I sail another brand (Ericson), but very much enjoyed the article. That is a beautiful boat, and I am intrigued by several features and impressed by the description of quality and engineering philosophy. Those IOR inspired designs take their lumps from some commentators, but some of those boats move me in a way more "modern" designs don't. Do you find the tumblehome is ever a problem docking or rafting up? I have yet to see a Yamaha sailboat in person but will definitely do some research now (I HAVE owned three of their motorcycles, does that count?) Looks like you do indeed have a well-planned "Escape".  

Warren Milberg

I just read the review ... of your boat in GOB and think your boat is great looking. I would like to hear your views about how well she sails on all points of sail. I also find it interesting to see a 25 footer with an inboard -- and particularly one with the engine under the forepeak. Was there a good reason for locating the engine so far forward? What is under the companionway/cockpit? Normally, it would seem you do not want to put much weight up by the bow as that may impact sail trim. Does the drive shaft run under the cabin sole and if so, how well does that work out? Again, really liked the article and think you have a great boat!  

Very nice review George,Using the boat as a family cruiser, how do you find the sailing characteristics? Does the rudder hang on and function ok when heeled over pretty good. Some rudder designs loose their bite when over on the side and I was wondering how the y25 handle this condition. Very nice boat you have.PML  

motor forward Warren,There is a huge space under the cockpit with berths on either sides. The engine is midships with a rather long drive shaft.  

additional answers/opinions Warren, I should read more carefully...I'm not sure but I think this was the first 25 that Yamaha made. There were 21s and 24s and there is at least one other 25 called a 'My Lady'. This model has the engine aft and a wider, flater deck. The deck on my Mark II is a problem for me as it is uneven. I think the engine amidships puts more weight on the bow and causes it to dive into oncoming waves. So the deck is designed to let the water slide off the boat before it gets to the cockpit. In order to lighten the bow as much as possible, the anchor locker on the bow is empty and I put weight into the rear.Another problem is that the spreader will devour anything more than a 120% headsail.That long drive shaft can cause problems if it bends, of course, and I hear it is common, but I've had not problemsThe rudder is no problem going forward. Mine is wicked in reverse. But then I think the bearing are a little sloppy. Turning in reverse requires two hands on the tiller. There is a point where the water will force that tiller out of your hands and, under the correct conditions, pop the lense off your stern light. I lost 2 stern lights before I learned.The article is a very good picture of the boat. herein osaka they are the entry level boat for most sailors. Even at that, there are not that many around. I fell for the inboard and the original stackpack this boat had. Bought it a year ago December and towed it back to my marina - frozen engine. Rebuilt the engine and put a new paint job on her. It took the better part of a year to make her 'my boat': rewired depth guage, solar panels, dual electric systems, new cushions... However, whatever I did, it would not increase the headroom under the mast bridge - a real headache maker.Bill  

For buflobrain... that is one of the best slide shows of a boat I've seen! Thanks for posting.BTW, I'm not sure what the reason was that Yamaha decided to put the engine any place other than under the cockpit. Any thoughts on that?  

Thanks, Warren I'll ask around. I think it is an early design and Yamaha may have had the idea that ballast needed to be centered. Another advantage is that the engine is easy to access and work on. (Somewhere I have photos of them pulling the engine - the boat is in the water about ten feet below ground level and a crane lifts the engine out with guidance from mechanics.)  

pulling the engine I found the photos documenting the engine removal. It wasn't 10 feet below the dock...follow this trail:Go to: http://www.2nd-class-juku.info/Click on the 'Boat Test' button inside the diamondClick onpulling the engine  

Your 25 Greetings,What a great looking boat! I liked the article, and wonder: how was the decision made to review your 25?Regards,Bob  

what! no clutter! Hey George, Great article, thanks for letting all us other Y25 owners know what our boat SHOULD look like. after 30 years of owners it's always nice to see a boat that has been left true to it's designers.I can see why your boat was selected for a review-Thanks again for flying the banner!!!  

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Hi, I am a novice sailor and just bought an old yamaha 25 sailboat (i know this model from other sailboat photos). I am now re-fitting the whole boat, stays, sails, woods.......... I would like to ask if you have the user manuel , or other useful reference information of her for my reference. Many thanks.  

Buying a Yamaha Did the seller have any information you could get on his boat? General specs might be found on yachtworld.com when searching for Yamaha from 1970 - 1985. I do know they had limited production from Yamaha. They don't even list a designer other than Yamaha design team (?). They look like they could be a fast racer/cruiser. What purpose do you desire to use your sailboat - racing or cruising? Or a little bit of both? Looks small for extended cruising; not much better than island hopping down close to land or weekend sailing. But should be a fun boat. Try also sailboatowners.com practicalsailor.com  

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Yamaha 25-2

Yamaha 25-2 is a 24 ′ 9 ″ / 7.6 m monohull sailboat designed by Yamaha/Ichiro Yokoyama and built by Yamaha starting in 1976.

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

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Yamaha 25 2

The yamaha 25 2 is a 24.77ft masthead sloop designed by yamaha / ichiro yokoyama and built in fiberglass by yamaha since 1976..

The Yamaha 25 2 is a moderate weight sailboat which is a good performer. It is stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.

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Considering a 252SD/SE

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• Start date Start date Jan 21, 2021

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I am considering a 2021 252SD/SE, Is 360Hp enough for this boat ? Seems a little low.  

Jetboaters Fleet Admiral

This thread may help give you an idea what to expect in terms of cruising speeds and RPM as well as top speed https://jetboaters.net/threads/252sd-thoughts.30676/  

Im am at a total loss as to what I want, I am also considering a 255XD and a 255 FSH sport E. I know they are all totally different boats. Just cant figure out what I would enjoy the most. I know I like fishing but I also know I like a sharp looking boat with power. The 255xd might be a waste for me because im not sure I would use the wake option but I love the look and power. If I decided in a few years that boating is not for me, which one would I have the easiest time selling ?  

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• Jan 22, 2021

Well we are at it, I looked at the Scarab 255 Open ID and I love the space on it, Are the Scarab products really that bad ? Why do I see alot of people trash talking them ?  

One of the downfalls of scarab is they don’t have clean out plugs so if something gets stuck while driving like a pine cone, pine needles, last year a plastic trash bag was caught in mine, you have no way to get it out easily like Yamaha. With the other brands you have to swim under the boat. Also Yamaha engines I’ve heard are much more bullet proof. Good luck on your decision!  

• Jan 23, 2021

LeonPhelps said: Well we are at it, I looked at the Scarab 255 Open ID and I love the space on it, Are the Scarab products really that bad ? Why do I see alot of people trash talking them ? Click to expand...

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Review of Yamaha 25 II

Basic specs..

The hull is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season. And outside the sailing season, just bottom cleaning and perhaps anti-fouling painting once a year - a few hours of work, that's all.

The boat equipped with a masthead rig. The advantage of a masthead rig is its simplicity and the fact that a given sail area - compared with a fractional rig - can be carried lower and thus with less heeling moment.

The Yamaha 25 II is equipped with a fin keel. A boat with a fin keel is more manoeuvrable but has less directional stability than a similar boat with a full keel.

The boat can enter most marinas as the draft is just about 1.65 - 1.75 meter (5.41 - 5.71 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.

The boat is typically equipped with an inboard Yanmar diesel engine at 8 hp (5 kW). Calculated max speed is about 4.8 knots

Sailing characteristics

This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.

What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?

The capsize screening value for Yamaha 25 II is 2.31, indicating that this boat would not be accepted to participate in ocean races.

What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed?

The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 5.9 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed.

The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Yamaha 25 II is about 107 kg/cm, alternatively 601 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 107 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 601 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.

Sailing statistics

This section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points.

What is Motion Comfort Ratio (MCR)?

What is L/B (Length Beam Ratio)?

What is a Ballast Ratio?

What is Displacement Length Ratio?

What is SA/D (Sail Area Displacement ratio)?

Maintenance

When buying anti-fouling bottom paint, it's nice to know how much to buy. The surface of the wet bottom is about 19m 2 (204 ft 2 ). Based on this, your favourite maritime shop can tell you the quantity you need.

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Yamaha traces its roots back to the company’s success in the personal watercraft market. It was there Yamaha produced its first jet propulsion engines, engines that quickly gained a reputation for both power and reliability. The company’s first boat, the 1995 Exciter, was a nimble, open-bow performer that showcased the advantages of jet propulsion. Today, the Yamaha Boats product line has matured into a collection of family-friendly, jet-powered runabouts . These include open-bow runabouts in the 19’-27’ range divided into all-around, watersports and luxury trim levels; five models from 22’-25’ aimed specifically at the fast-growing wake-surfing market; and seven fishing-focused, center-console models from 19’-25’. All use Yamaha Marine Engines in single or twin-engine pairings.

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Yamaha currently produces a diverse collection of jet-powered sport boats, all powered by Yamaha marine engines. Craft come in 19’, 22’, 25’ and 27’ lengths and are divided into recreational, watersports, luxury, and center-console models.

Types of Yamaha Boats

Yamaha builds a wide-ranging fleet of open-bow sport boats , including family-oriented models from 19’ – 25’, watersports-oriented models from 19’-25’, luxury models from 19’ – 27’, wakesurf models from 22’ – 25’ and center-consoles from 19’ – 25’. Depending on size, power is provided by single or dual Yamaha Marine Engines transferring their power to the water via enclosed jet pumps.

• Yamaha offers five models in the 19’ range with an eight-passenger capacity. These include the SX 190 and AR 190, powered by 1.8-liter High Output engines; and SX 195 , AR 195 , and 195 S powered by the supercharged Super Vortex High Output engine.
• All feature open bows, wraparound windshields, wraparound cockpit seating and large aft swim platforms that work for coving, hanging out at the sandbar or gearing up for watersports.
• SX designates base models.
• AR models add watersports-specific features including overhead tow towers.
• The 195 S is a premium model, including watersports tower and touchscreen display.
• Five 22’ models up seating capacity to 10 and include the SX220, AR220, 222S, 222SE and 222SD. Both the SX220 and AR220 are powered by twin, naturally aspirated TR-1 High Output engines.
• The 222S, 222SE and 222SD feature twin, naturally aspirated 1.8-liter High Output engines.
• SX, AR and S models indicate base, base with watersports tower and premium with watersports tower features.
• The SE adds E-Series drive-by-wire features, including push-button start and stop, RPM engine sync and single-lever throttle pairing.
• SD models add E-Series drive-by-wire features and DRiVE throttle controls that enhance low-speed handling and maneuverability.
• The 25’ category increases seating capacity to 12 and features the SX and AR 250, 252S, 252SE and 252SD. All five are powered by twin-engine pairings of the naturally aspirated, 1.8-liter High Output Yamaha Marine engine.
• SE models add E-Series drive-by-wire features, including push-button start and stop, RPM engine sync and single-lever throttle pairing.
• SD models add E-Series drive-by-wire features and DRiVE throttle controls that enhance low-speed handling and maneuverability. Additions include convertible stern setbacks, up to 12” touchscreen control and portside head compartment.
• Two models — the 275SE and 275SDX occupy the premium , yacht-certified 27’ category. Power is increased to twin supercharged versions of the Super Vortex High Output Yamaha Marine engine. Both include encoded portside head compartments and 12” touchscreen helm control.
• The SE includes E-Series drive-by-wire features and an aluminum, folding wake tower.
• The SDX features a hardtop with panoramic tinted skylights, E-Series drive-by-wire features, DRiVE throttle controls and DRiVE X dock-assist features, steering wheel mounted controls that let you move the boat fore and aft, laterally, rotate on its axis or stay in place against a dock.
• Wake models are designed to satisfy the growing wake surf crowd .
• They include the 222XE, 222XD and 252XE, powered by twin, naturally aspirated 1.8-liter High Output engines; and the 255XE and 255XD , both powered by twin, supercharged versions of the Super Vortex High Output engine.
• All introduce wake-inducing hulls, onboard ballast systems, and button-activated Wakeboosters, large plates below the swim platform that can enhance the wake on a surfer’s preferred side.
• Designed to appeal to the active coastal buyer , center consoles can fish, cruise, and pull towables from tubes to wakeboards.
• Models include the 190 FSH Sport , 195 FSH Sport , 220 FSH Sport, 222 FSH Sport, 222 FSH Sport E , 252 FSH Sport, and 252 FSH Sport E.
• Layouts include center console with leaning post, overhead T-top or hardtop with rodholders, in-console storage that can double as a changing room, live well and bucket storage.
• Seating capacity ranges from 8-12 depending on size.
• Power includes Yamaha Marine Engines in single 1.8-liter High Output, single 1.8-liter Super Vortex High Output, twin TR-1 High Output, and twin 1.8-liter Super Vortex High Output.

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• The EX series models are lightweight and compact in size
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• Connext Screen, Electric Trim, Ride and more technologies available
• Optional RecDeck expands the swim platform and makes a range of other options available
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• Two three-passenger models are available
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• The GP1800R SVHO model is the Choice of Champions, representing the top race series in the world , and it’s race-ready right out of the box
• Available with factory-installed audio speakers for a clean, streamlined look
• Yamaha Waverunner SuperJet and Waveblaster are for freestyle PWC riders
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Find the answers to frequently asked questions about Yamaha boats, including the types of boats Yamaha makes, where they’re produced and how to find a Yamaha boat that fits your needs and lifestyle.

Yamaha currently produces 29 models , with their focus split between recreational, luxury, watersports, wake surf and fishing-oriented center-consoles.

• The list of 19’ models include the SX 190, AR 190, SX 195 , AR 195 , and 195S
• 22’ models include the SX 220, AR 220, 222S, 222SE, and 222SD
• 25’ boats include the SX 250, AR 250, 252S, 252SE, and 252SD
• 27’ boats include the 275 SE and 275SDX
• Wake Series models include the 222XE, 222XD , 252XE, 255XE, and 255 XD
• Center Consoles feature the 190 FSH Sport, 195 FSH Sport, 220 FSH Sport, 222 FSH Sport, 222 FSH Sport E , 252 FSH Sport, and 255 FSH Sport E.

Yamaha Motor Corporation is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia. Yamaha Boats are assembled in Vonore, Tennessee.

Yamaha Boats exclusively use Yamaha Marine Engines in either naturally aspirated or supercharged versions.

Yamaha warrants that 2019 and newer Yamaha Boats purchased from an authorized Yamaha Boat dealer in the 50 U.S. States and Canada and registered for use in the 50 U.S. states and Canada will be free from defects in material or workmanship for the following periods:

• Hull and Deck – Duration of ownership of the first retail owner for pleasure use; one year commercial use.
• Engines, engine-related components, jet pump and jet drive pump-related components – One year from date of purchase for both Pleasure and Commercial use.
• Components, except for those covered under Structural and Engine warranties – Three years from date of original purchase for Pleasure use, ninety (90) days for commercial use.
• Cosmetic Imperfections in exterior cosmetic gelcoat finish (cracks, crazing, mold marks, etc) and upholstery — one year from date of original purchase for both Personal and Commercial use.

Yes, Yamaha boats are considered easy to maintain. Basic maintenance, including washing and waxing the fiberglass hull , flushing the engine (especially after use in saltwater), keeping engine compartments clean and dry, and cleaning and using protectant on vinyl surfaces will keep a Yamaha boat looking like new for years to come. Always follow the manufacturer’s maintenance schedule, including oil and filter changes, to ensure reliable, safe operation. Yamaha has a large dealer network that can perform more complex maintenance and service that is recommended to be performed by the dealer.

All Yamaha Boats can be used for recreational watersports, including skiing, wakeboarding and inflatable tubing. Swim platforms, tow hooks and reboarding ladders provide the necessary features to make watersports both fun and safe. Wake Series models are specifically designed to enhance the wakes for the sport of wake surfing. Jet propulsion eliminates exposed propellers in close proximity to surf riders. Hulls are also designed to sit lower in the water and offer features including external, wake-boosting hardware off the transom, onboard ballast systems, and intuitive touchscreen control.

As jet propulsion uses an enclosed impeller, Yamaha jet boats can safely be used for wake surfing. The Wake Series models are best as they’re specifically designed for the sport. They include surf-enhancing extras such as onboard ballast systems, wake-enhancing transom hardware, speed control and intuitive touchscreen controls.

Any of Yamaha’s many boat models can be used for recreational fishing. Center console models, however, are designed specifically for the task with features including overhead T-tops with integrated rodholders, leaning post helm seating, live wells and third-party electronics like large Simrad touchscreen displays.

Yamaha has one of the largest dealer networks in North America, and representation in countries around the world. Find your local Yamaha Boats dealer here .

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